An interesting article on the BBC about why Americans are working themselves to death (actually to unhealth, but that doesn’t sound quite as dramatic).
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20211209-why-its-so-hard-for-some-workers-to-ask-for-time-off
Seemingly, Americans are afraid to take paid leave, because they feel it makes them look like they’re slacking and that it might prove they’re not unmissable from the workfloor / office. Which, in turn, could have real consequences like missing out on projects or a salary raise, etc.
So, burn-out and other psychological problems are on the rise.
The article also discusses the lean culture and an engrained work-ethic as possible causes.
A majority of Americans want more paid vacation. Yet, even it is offered, they don’t dare take it.
Is this healthy?
If not, should a mandatory 5 weeks off a year be institutionalised?
@shavixmir
I think unskilled jobs here get 15 days Vaca for the year (Canada)
(Edit...I looked...it's 10 days a year)
Most people don't make enough to waste money on a real vacation so they take random days off or try to work on those days and get double pay.
I currently get 365 vacation days a year cause society won't hire me so they pay the dole.
I'm comfortable 😌
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@contenchess saidBoo-hoo,
@shavixmir
I think unskilled jobs here get 15 days Vaca for the year (Canada)
Most people don't make enough to waste money on a real vacation so they take random days off or try to work on those days and get double pay.
I currently get 365 vacation days a year cause society won't hire me so they pay the dole.
I'm comfortable 😌
victim of society.
Grow a pair,tough guy.
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@shavixmir saidWell, one reason we don't
An interesting article on the BBC about why Americans are working themselves to death (actually to unhealth, but that doesn’t sound quite as dramatic).
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20211209-why-its-so-hard-for-some-workers-to-ask-for-time-off
Seemingly, Americans are afraid to take paid leave, because they feel it makes them look like they’re slacking and that ...[text shortened]... re take it.
Is this healthy?
If not, should a mandatory 5 weeks off a year be institutionalised?
take paid, leave is because,
VERY FEW OF US HAVE IT--
@jimm619 saidThe article suggests most US workers get a certain amount of paid leave, but many don’t use it. They’d rather call in sick or use some other excuse.
Well, one reason we don't
take paid, leave is because,
VERY FEW OF US HAVE IT--
It doesn’t sound like a very healthy work environment.
How do people stay productive if they don’t have proper down time?
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@contenchess saidAw shucks mister,
@jimm619
Who's complaining?
He asked why people don't actually take the time off...
I told him how it is here.
I'm not complaining meathead.
Only suckers work.
Try following along. 😉
thought I heard
a kiddie crying.
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@shavixmir saidWell, many positions do offer
The article suggests most US workers get a certain amount of paid leave, but many don’t use it. They’d rather call in sick or use some other excuse.
It doesn’t sound like a very healthy work environment.
How do people stay productive if they don’t have proper down time?
paid vacations, after a certain length
of employment, the menial and entry level
jobs usually don't. We're the only 'industrialized,
country that doesn't have mandated, paid vacations.'
@jimm619 saidHow do you go on holidays?
Well, many positions do offer
paid vacations, after a certain length
of employment, the menial and entry level
jobs usually don't. We're the only 'industrialized,
country that doesn't have mandated, paid vacations.'
@shavixmir
One day at a time.
When I was in the USAF, I took the 5 level exam, was told I would get a 3 day vacation if I aced the final.
So it turned out I did, and went to the first Sargent and said, so I aced the test, I would like Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off, thinking I would work that to a FIVE day vacation but the sarge says, NAY, Yeah you get three days off but that means Friday, Saturday and Sunday off.
We ALWAYS got Saturday and Sunday off so the three day pass turned into a ONE day pass.
It still grinds my jaws.
@sonhouse saidWhat’s the point of working if you don’t get weeks and weeks of holiday to enjoy?
@shavixmir
One day at a time.
When I was in the USAF, I took the 5 level exam, was told I would get a 3 day vacation if I aced the final.
So it turned out I did, and went to the first Sargent and said, so I aced the test, I would like Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off, thinking I would work that to a FIVE day vacation but the sarge says, NAY, Yeah you get three days of ...[text shortened]... aturday and Sunday off so the three day pass turned into a ONE day pass.
It still grinds my jaws.
@shavixmir saidOf course, paid leave would be contractual with your employer. It should not be mandated by the govt, there is no provision for such. It should DEF be offered by an employer, being healthy as you suggest.
What’s the point of working if you don’t get weeks and weeks of holiday to enjoy?
Historically, I believe it has been two weeks, but again, it is up to the parties. Europe seems to get along with much longer,, even 5 weeks, but if you start with all that, then why not 10 or 15 weeks?
I think absolutely not, it becomes a point of diminishing returns. Frankly, an average employee would like all they can get, but we must take the position of the the employer.....He is trying to run a business and, well, make a lot of money!!!! Sorry, Suzianne.
For the record, if I were interviewing a prospect, and he started in about vacation time, I would prob not hire him. I would rather he talk about the job, the success, possibility of advancement, partnership, such as that, Bring him on!!!!!
Really, a guy looking to get ahead would hardly be wondering about how much time he would spend NOT working. Not my kind of guy. Well, gotta get off to WORK!! 😉
@averagejoe1 saidUtter madness.
Of course, paid leave would be contractual with your employer. It should not be mandated by the govt, there is no provision for such. It should DEF be offered by an employer, being healthy as you suggest.
Historically, I believe it has been two weeks, but again, it is up to the parties. Europe seems to get along with much longer,, even 5 weeks, but if you start with ...[text shortened]... ut how much time he would spend NOT working. Not my kind of guy. Well, gotta get off to WORK!! 😉
@shavixmir saidC'mon, Shav what in the world wrong could you possibly find with these concepts ?
Utter madness.
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@shavixmir saidOh, we can go on holidays,
How do you go on holidays?
but we don't get paid.
Benevolent employers often
grant paid sick days and vacations.
This link is informative:
https://www.whattoexpect.com/pregnancy/maternity-leave