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  1. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    17 Jul '18 09:04
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44775113

    Remember those nuts back in 2015?
    Armed militia facing down the Police?

    Trump is siding with the law-breakers and giving them a pardon!

    WTF

    Based purely on politics - nothing to do with justice. Pathetic.
  2. Germany
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    17 Jul '18 09:10
    Weak on terror. As long as it makes the libs angry!
  3. Standard memberLundos
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    17 Jul '18 09:30
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    Weak on terror. As long as it makes the libs angry!
    Weak on justice, weak on national security, weak in foreign relations.

    Where is Mike Pence? Pathetic.
  4. SubscriberSuzianne
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    17 Jul '18 11:27
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44775113

    Remember those nuts back in 2015?
    Armed militia facing down the Police?

    Trump is siding with the law-breakers and giving them a pardon!

    WTF

    Based purely on politics - nothing to do with justice. Pathetic.
    More sucking up to his base and to hell with the rest of America.
  5. Subscriberno1marauder
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    17 Jul '18 13:49
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44775113

    Remember those nuts back in 2015?
    Armed militia facing down the Police?

    Trump is siding with the law-breakers and giving them a pardon!

    WTF

    Based purely on politics - nothing to do with justice. Pathetic.
    Let's be a bit fairer here; the Hammonds had nothing to do with the takeover of the wildlife refuge even though it was done ostensibly to protest their conviction:

    The Hammonds, however, never asked for the help of the Bundys or the militia members, and amid it all, quietly headed to prison.


    Moreover, they served most of their five year sentences and the father is 76 years old:

    The pardons will shave some time off the Hammonds’ sentences — Dwight Hammond has served three years and Steven Hammond has served four.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/10/us/politics/trump-pardon-hammond-oregon.html

    I don't consider these pardons that outrageous unlike say Arpaio's.
  6. Germany
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    17 Jul '18 14:26
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Let's be a bit fairer here; the Hammonds had nothing to do with the takeover of the wildlife refuge even though it was done ostensibly to protest their conviction:

    The Hammonds, however, never asked for the help of the Bundys or the militia members, and amid it all, quietly headed to prison.


    Moreover, they served most of their five year sentence ...[text shortened]... ardon-hammond-oregon.html

    I don't consider these pardons that outrageous unlike say Arpaio's.
    That a president can pardon any crime is already outrageous.
  7. SubscriberSuzianne
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    18 Jul '18 09:05
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Let's be a bit fairer here; the Hammonds had nothing to do with the takeover of the wildlife refuge even though it was done ostensibly to protest their conviction:

    The Hammonds, however, never asked for the help of the Bundys or the militia members, and amid it all, quietly headed to prison.


    Moreover, they served most of their five year sentence ...[text shortened]... ardon-hammond-oregon.html

    I don't consider these pardons that outrageous unlike say Arpaio's.
    Don't get me started on Arpaio.

    He's now running for Flake's spot in the Senate. God save us.
  8. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    18 Jul '18 09:23
    Just curious... Did you approve of the peaceful occupation of various sites during OWS?

    Did you approve of the controlled rioting and destruction of cop cars in Baltimore?

    What makes you interested in seeing these guys feet held to the fire?
  9. Standard membersh76
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    18 Jul '18 14:53
    Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
    That a president can pardon any crime is already outrageous.
    He can't.

    He can pardon only federal crimes. Most truly outrageous acts are state crimes as well.
  10. Subscriberno1marauder
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    18 Jul '18 14:55
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    Just curious... Did you approve of the peaceful occupation of various sites during OWS?

    Did you approve of the controlled rioting and destruction of cop cars in Baltimore?

    What makes you interested in seeing these guys feet held to the fire?
    IF OWS had been armed with firearms, there most likely would have been massacres.

    The Bundys and the Wildlife occupiers were treated with kid gloves.

    But that's not the Hammonds' fault.
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