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Originally posted by generalissimo
venezuela [is] a undeclared police state now.

Originally posted by FMF
Thank heavens, then, for us, that you have declared it thus.

Originally posted by generalissimo
that doesn't make it less of a police state.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Your claim that it is doesn't make it one.

I thought you liked police states like Pinochet's?

Originally posted by generalissimo
[b]I thought you liked police states like Pinochet's?

I don't like police states, however the military takeover in chile prevented it from becoming a soviet pawn.

sometimes tough measures have to be taken.[/b]

Originally posted by no1marauder
I suppose you are deluded enough to believe that.

Ten of thousands of Chileans were killed in the military coup (and its aftermath) that ousted the elected government of Chile in 1973. Thousands more political prisoners were murdered by Pinochet's regime while he was in power and at least a quarter of a million Chileans were put in cam ...[text shortened]... on-fascists (so you have no need to read it): http://members.tripod.com/~mneumann/pinochet.html

Originally posted by generalissimo
Im not a fascist.

Im not saying that what pinochet did was right, Im saying that looking back, I see the regime as a less dangeorus alternative to a hard-left regime.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
How do you know?

Originally posted by generalissimo
because of what happened in cuba.

and because of what far-left guerrilas in South america were willing to do.

Originally posted by generalissimo
Im not a fascist.

Im not saying that what pinochet did was right, Im saying that looking back, I see the regime as a less dangeorus alternative to a hard-left regime.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Socialism is far too diverse to be considered a single form of government. It's like treating all 1. e4 openings the same. In Holland alone there are six different parties in parliament incorporating different aspects of socialism.