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    02 Sep '13 11:11
    Originally posted by bill718
    I'm fully aware that Russia has selfish interests in keeping the Assad government in place. Russia is making lots of money selling arms in the region, but Putin makes a valid point. There is no guarantee the rebels fighting the Assad government will turn out to be any better than the present government, especially since the rebels have at least some ties to ...[text shortened]... e. John McCain) screaming for war, perhaps this is not a time for military action by the USA.😏
    How exactly could the opposition turn out worse than the present government? They'd have to use nukes ...
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    02 Sep '13 16:03
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Nobody's gassed the Kurds since the USA captured Saddam.
    The USA helped Saddam gas Iran. The desire to bomb Syria has nothing to do with ethics.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran
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    02 Sep '13 16:17
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    war is justified whenever a government uses chemical or bio weapons against its citizens.

    other countries must send a clear message that such atrocities will not be ignored.
    Do you differentiate between whether a nation is justified to wage war on another nation when the nation waging war uses a volunteer army versus a conscripted (compulsory enlistment) army?
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    02 Sep '13 20:34
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    The USA helped Saddam gas Iran. The desire to bomb Syria has nothing to do with ethics.

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran
    Nobody's gassed Iran since the US captured Saddam.
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    02 Sep '13 21:36
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Nobody's gassed Iran since the US captured Saddam.
    So would you say the US is going to quit helping to gas Syria if we capture Assad?
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    02 Sep '13 21:56
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    So would you say the US is going to quit helping to gas Syria if we capture Assad?
    US ain't got nothin' to do with Assad's gas. Britain sold him that stuff.
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    02 Sep '13 22:04
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    US ain't got nothin' to do with Assad's gas. Britain sold him that stuff.
    I was talking about the gas Al qaeda used over there. If we knock off Assad will Al qaeda quit gassing the public?
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    02 Sep '13 22:15
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    I was talking about the gas Al qaeda used over there. If we knock off Assad will Al qaeda quit gassing the public?
    Oh, right. You're the idiot who thinks Al Qaeda is an American controlled organization.

    😴
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    03 Sep '13 00:17
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Oh, right. You're the idiot who thinks Al Qaeda is an American controlled organization.

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    Are you saying they are not? Look it up so you don't look foolish.
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    03 Sep '13 02:34
    Originally posted by JS357
    Do you differentiate between whether a nation is justified to wage war on another nation when the nation waging war uses a volunteer army versus a conscripted (compulsory enlistment) army?
    Good question, and add to it, is genocide tolerable as long as it is done with conventional weapons?
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    03 Sep '13 04:344 edits
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Not sure what's with the yellow shirts ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGqUFTgV0U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
    I like that flatbed technical with the howitzer on it.

    The yellow shirts seem a bit wasteful of ammunition. Normally suppressive fire is done from stationary positions covering other troops making short rushes; then alternate leapfrog style with the former rusher providing suppression for the former stationary soldier.

    Walking slowly upright while firing a machinegun is a strange procedure.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_unit_tactics

    Bounded fire entails having one element of the squad provide covering fire and field obscuration while the second element maneuvers forward to provide covering fire that allows the first element to leapfrog forward.

    See also

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounding_Overwatch


    The also need to learn how to aim:

    http://www.everycitizenasoldier.org/id16.html
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    03 Sep '13 05:16
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Nobody's gassed Iran since the US captured Saddam.
    So what happened before Saddam was captured and hung means nothing? Get a clue. Gassing is gassing. It doesn't matter when. It is still a human rights violation to not be ignored.
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    03 Sep '13 15:19
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Oh, right. You're the idiot who thinks Al Qaeda is an American controlled organization.

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    I wouldn't say controlled, but it would take a real idiot to ignore the fact that Obama chooses to aid Al Qaeda and Islamic groups like it.
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    03 Sep '13 17:07
    Originally posted by Metal Brain
    So what happened before Saddam was captured and hung means nothing? Get a clue. Gassing is gassing. It doesn't matter when. It is still a human rights violation to not be ignored.
    That's why he's dead.
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