Phasers on stun

@kevin-eleven said
Maybe we should design some kind of "least-force-necessary" stun gun (no, not tasers) that all school personnel could wear just in case.

Plus maybe each classroom could be equipped with a sleep switch that would release a mild but fast-acting neurotoxin.

Yes, I know these are ridiculous ideas. Got anything better?

Some joker would get hold of the switch and put the class to sleep as a prank...

@earl-of-trumps said
@shavixmir says -
I’ll give you a hint: guns are only part of the cause of the problem the US has with these shootings.

@EoT: Yeh and if one dares to say "Guns don't kill, people do", they get loudly shouted down by the libs.

This is politics of a different kind here. In general, libs don't want people to be able to control their own lives, and hence, the ...[text shortened]... is what this is really all about, it has been going on since before the classroom shootings existed.

In fact it is people who shoot, but most could not create that much damage without an assault rifle.

@shavixmir said
From philosophical argumentation one-on-one: a drunk driver hits a pedestrian crossing the road. What element needs to be removed?
The law says: drunk driving.
But a sober driver could also hit the pedestrian whether he’s crossing the road or standing on the pavement.
The car needs to be removed to solve the cause of the problem.

To the Republican Party, and a good chunk of the Democrats, too, it would be much more obvious to ban pedestrians.

@shavixmir said
What’s the problem?
What’s the cause of the problem?
How do you solve the cause of the problem?

Implement said solution:
Plan - Do - Check - Act.

It is not rocket science. It’s basic problem analysis and project driven problem solving.

From philosophical argumentation one-on-one: a drunk driver hits a pedestrian crossing the road. What element needs to be remov ...[text shortened]... ’ll give you a hint: guns are only part of the cause of the problem the US has with these shootings.

you could always put God back in school. The issue is not caused by guns, its a culture created by liberals like yourself where people no longer know right from wrong.

@mghrn55 said
All of these ideas are alternatives to .................. ????????

Any sane society would tackle the root cause, instead of accelerating the symptom, of violence.

@kmax87 said
If its just all about people with guns killing people, then ask yourself the question, are people without guns able to kill people as easily as people with guns? And then by that logic if you want to slow down the rate at which people are killed, wouldn't removing readily available semi automatic rifles be a good start to limit the "people with guns" ability to kill other people???

There is no such thing as a drive-by stabbing. Maybe you saw the news report a delay or so ago about an infant killed by a drive-by shooter. Sheer savagery that is.

@mott-the-hoople said
you could always put God back in school. The issue is not caused by guns, its a culture created by liberals like yourself where people no longer know right from wrong.

Are you trying to get God shot?

@kevcvs57 said
Are you trying to get God shot?

you would like that wouldnt you?

@earl-of-trumps said
@shavixmir says -
I’ll give you a hint: guns are only part of the cause of the problem the US has with these shootings.

@EoT: Yeh and if one dares to say "Guns don't kill, people do", they get loudly shouted down by the libs.

This is politics of a different kind here. In general, libs don't want people to be able to control their own lives, and hence, the ...[text shortened]... is what this is really all about, it has been going on since before the classroom shootings existed.

The problem with your argument is in the proof.

The Netherlands: next to no guns - few gun related deaths.
Norway: lots of school entrances - very few gun deaths.
Germany: no armed guards in front of schools - very few gun deaths.

Every argument the pro-gun lobby carts out every single time is rubbish. The only thing in the equation is guns.

Then the next step of the argument… oh, wait, kebabs. Gotta go!

@suzianne said
Or, we could ban assault weapons.

What a novel idea.

@moonbus said
There is no such thing as a drive-by stabbing. Maybe you saw the news report a delay or so ago about an infant killed by a drive-by shooter. Sheer savagery that is.

Technically using a spear from a heavy Persian war chariot would be a drive by stabbing

@shavixmir said
The problem with your argument is in the proof.

The Netherlands: next to no guns - few gun related deaths.

Also: I went to school in the Netherlands. My high school was nominally Christian. There was an other high school in my town that had nothing to do with Christ whatsoever. Even for mine, the word "nominally" carries more weight than the word "Christian": we had, IIRC, about half an hour of religious ed a week, and that was more discussing religion in general than USA-style indoctrination and flag-praying.

There's been no school shooting in either of them, ever. Not even since we had an influx of "other cultures", as the USA loves to call them. (As an aside, I wonder how the USA can complain about "other" cultures when it has none of its own. But that's another matter.)

No shootings. At all. No spree of house raids, either. Nothing like that. Lots of different kinds of people, lots of different faiths, lots of skin colours. But for some reason, surprisingly, no shootings. There was one notorious murder, several decades ago. She was strangled, not shot. Nothing else since. I wonder why.

Could it be that we do not have a gun culture? Nah, couldn't be. It must be something in the water, or maybe the fact that we don't have a lot of Spanish speakers. Can't possibly be the lack of guns, that would just be silly.