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13 Apr 11
13 Apr 11
How'd it do? Heraldabc is quite harsh on what I thought was our stellar record. What do you think?
We stalemated Korea, we lost Vietnam, we screwed up Granada, stumbled over Nicaragua, lost Panama to the PRCs, bungled Lebanon, did not close the deal on Iraq the first time, screwed up Somalia, and look to see the current Iraq regime tilt toward Iran even after a ten year war we allegedly won. (If you think Malarky is anything than a Tehran tool, then you are not paying attention) Add to that we still look about to lose the twelve year Afghan War and now the MESS that is Libya.
No, JFKY, history is very clear on this one.
There is NO substitute for victory, and from the track record I just showed you, there is DAMN little American victory to show.
Heraldabc
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/articles/20110406.aspx?comments=Y
13 Apr 11
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungLotta BS.
How'd it do? Heraldabc is quite harsh on what I thought was our stellar record. What do you think?
We stalemated Korea, we lost Vietnam, we screwed up Granada, stumbled over Nicaragua, lost Panama to the PRCs, bungled Lebanon, did not close the deal on Iraq the first time, screwed up Somalia, and look to see the current Iraq regime tilt toward ...[text shortened]... .
Heraldabc
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/articles/20110406.aspx?comments=Y
We kept the North Koreans from taking over the South, which was their goal then and now. That's not a stalemate.
Yeah, Vietnam was a loss, but not by the military. They OWNED South Vietnam from 1970 on.
"Screwed up Grenada Somalia, blah blah blah".
Screwed up? Those places have been screwed up since before written history so who cares? They will be screwed up a thousand years from now. America can't wave a magic wand and make them peaceful democratic fun loving let's-be-fair -and -follow-the-Golden Rule type of people. They never have been and never will be.
13 Apr 11
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWho is Heraldabc and why does anyone care about his opinion?
How'd it do? Heraldabc is quite harsh on what I thought was our stellar record. What do you think?
We stalemated Korea, we lost Vietnam, we screwed up Granada, stumbled over Nicaragua, lost Panama to the PRCs, bungled Lebanon, did not close the deal on Iraq the first time, screwed up Somalia, and look to see the current Iraq regime tilt toward ...[text shortened]... .
Heraldabc
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/articles/20110406.aspx?comments=Y
13 Apr 11
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Originally posted by sh76People who think the US should have the power of Harry Potter care, they like to quote stuff like this and say "Gee America suuuucks" , like the US can make backward parts and people of the world suddenly transform by sending them to school for a year.
Who is Heraldabc and why does anyone care about his opinion?
14 Apr 11
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungI agree. This series of failures is a direct result of America's stupid policy of trying to play world policeman. It's wasteful, destructive, and unnecessary. (...but it makes up for all this by being expensive!)😞
How'd it do? Heraldabc is quite harsh on what I thought was our stellar record. What do you think?
We stalemated Korea, we lost Vietnam, we screwed up Granada, stumbled over Nicaragua, lost Panama to the PRCs, bungled Lebanon, did not close the deal on Iraq the first time, screwed up Somalia, and look to see the current Iraq regime tilt toward ...[text shortened]... .
Heraldabc
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/articles/20110406.aspx?comments=Y
14 Apr 11
Originally posted by bill718This "series of failures" is a figment of Heraldabc's imagination.
I agree. This series of failures is a direct result of America's stupid policy of trying to play world policeman. It's wasteful, destructive, and unnecessary. (...but it makes up for all this by being expensive!)😞
16 Apr 11
Originally posted by Sam The Shamtake Karzai, for instance. whack him and his corrupt family and cronies or lock them up or exile them sans their coin and start over with a new bunch. repeat til a good bunch sticks.
Lotta BS.
We kept the North Koreans from taking over the South, which was their goal then and now. That's not a stalemate.
Yeah, Vietnam was a loss, but not by the military. They OWNED South Vietnam from 1970 on.
"Screwed up Grenada Somalia, blah blah blah".
Screwed up? Those places have been screwed up since before written history so who care ...[text shortened]... e-fair -and -follow-the-Golden Rule type of people. They never have been and never will be.
16 Apr 11
Originally posted by zeeblebotDemocracy the franchise....coming soon to a junta near you...
we have bridges and hospital units we can transport around the world. we need turnkey government computer systems. boot em up and hold elections, 1 month after the fighting stops. refer to above post if the electees don't behave. all govt fund transfers online and browseable.
17 Apr 11
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Originally posted by Sam The ShamIt might be noted that except for Grenada, all of those actions were the USA acting as the muscle of the UN, and acting with restraint to impress the world with our humanity. By the way how come Haiti, Bosnia, Serbia and Kosevo are left out? As well at the fiasco in Iran, Carter administration.
Lotta BS.
We kept the North Koreans from taking over the South, which was their goal then and now. That's not a stalemate.
Yeah, Vietnam was a loss, but not by the military. They OWNED South Vietnam from 1970 on.
"Screwed up Grenada Somalia, blah blah blah".
Screwed up? Those places have been screwed up since before written history so who care e-fair -and -follow-the-Golden Rule type of people. They never have been and never will be.