Recently in the news: one event combines three hot topics!
A high school boy appears to be stoned while at school. It turns out that he has a small amount of pot in his backpack. (I don't know the details of the circumstances under which the backpack was searched, except that the probable cause might be his being under the influence of a substance.) As this was against the law, the police were called. (I also don't know if this is an area the school had discretion about.) Anyway, the police called the parents to the school, and then asked to see their drivers' licenses. They admitted that they didn't have any because they're in the country illegally. The Border Patrol is called. Younger son is picked up at his middle school, and mom and boys are driven to the Mexican border in a procedure that's no longer technically called a deportation but voluntary return or some such thing. Dad has multiple deportations and so he is arrested for formal procedures.
Part Two: Today his classmates had a protest march and there is some agreement of changes for the future, but I sort of lost track of what those were.
So many debatable possibilities:
Does student drug use constitute a crime or normal development when it happens at school?
Are schools liable if a child breaks the law and they do nothing?
Did the police have a valid reason for asking the parents for identification?
Is immediately deporting the family the best plan? What about their belongings, etc.?
Etc. Generally, schools and churches are considered sanctuaries, INS-wise, but not in this case because of the drugs on school premises.
Originally posted by pawnhandlerStudent drug use is both a normal developmental stage, and it is illegal. Go figure.
Recently in the news: one event combines three hot topics!
A high school boy appears to be stoned while at school. It turns out that he has a small amount of pot in his backpack. (I don't know the details of the circumstances under which the backpack was searched, except that the probable cause might be his being under the influence of a substance. ...[text shortened]... dered sanctuaries, INS-wise, but not in this case because of the drugs on school premises.
If the anyone knows that someone broke the law, and fails to report it, they are in some way liable. It's no different for schools.
Yes, to determine if they were actually his parents.
No, they should have been given time to collect some belongings, an hour or so to pack some basics. After that, they can choose a proxy to complete the packing, and if no proxy can be found, one should be appointed by the state.
Churches have this reputation for being sanctuaries, but that's all hunchback of notre dame crap, I don't know about america, but seeking sanctuary in a church just makes it a bit more complicated, it doesn't put someone above the law.
Originally posted by agrysonBeing absolutely picky about it, why should the followers of God be above the law. God isn't above the law. He wrote it after all and commends his followers to submit to the authorities which he helps set up and overturn. As far as his son was concerned you had also better render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
Churches have this reputation for being sanctuaries, but that's all hunchback of notre dame crap, I don't know about america, but seeking sanctuary in a church just makes it a bit more complicated, it doesn't put someone above the law.
Originally posted by agrysonYeah, churches aren't sanctuaries, that's some bizarre urban legend propagated by hollywood writers who made people think that they were in the middle ages. They weren't back then either.
Churches have this reputation for being sanctuaries, but that's all hunchback of notre dame crap, I don't know about america, but seeking sanctuary in a church just makes it a bit more complicated, it doesn't put someone above the law.[/b]
The Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement view schools more selectively.
"Typically, we won't enter the premises of churches or schools unless upon request of proper authorities or an emergency," said DeWitt, who called the school arrest a rarity.
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/related/210146.php
Subsequent student protest: http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=7322025&nav=menu86_2