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I just read that President Bush has pardoned the two border agents who shot the drug smugler in the ass. Good for them & thank you President Bush. I still believe it should have been a full pardon instead of just commuting their sentence. They should be heroes instead of ex-cons.

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Were they aiming for the guy's ass? If not, there's no excuse for them. Back to the firing range for the both of 'em I say.

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Their sentences were commuted; they weren't pardoned. Nor should they have been:

They were convicted of shooting admitted drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila in the buttocks as he fled across the Rio Grande, away from an abandoned van load of marijuana. The border agents argued during their trials that they believed the smuggler was armed and that they shot him in self defense. The prosecutor in the case said there was no evidence linking the smuggler to the van of marijuana. The prosecutor also said the border agents didn't report the shooting and tampered with evidence by picking up several spent shell casings.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28735457

The jury rejected their self-defense claim. Open season on anyone near the border has not been declared contrary to what some right wingers believe.

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Originally posted by taipei5200
I just read that President Bush has pardoned the two border agents who shot the drug smugler in the ass. Good for them & thank you President Bush. I still believe it should have been a full pardon instead of just commuting their sentence. They should be heroes instead of ex-cons.
Shooting someone in the back and then trying to cover it up makes someone a "hero" in your estimation?

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Originally posted by Ray Gunz I
Were they aiming for the guy's ass? If not, there's no excuse for them. Back to the firing range for the both of 'em I say.
lol

You are absolutely right! I am all for "gun control". They are both hereby required ten thousand rounds practice, ball ammunition.

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Some of you guys are so left wing it's disgusting.

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Originally posted by taipei5200
Some of you guys are so left wing it's disgusting.
That's interesting. To me it didn't come across as a left wing point of view at all. I interpreted no1marauder's comments as being related to the upholding of the law. I didn't get any state controlling the means of production vibes off it whatsoever. But your retort obviously marks your card as a "right winger". Only a "right winger" would try to insult someone arguing for the rule of law by calling them "left wing". What vision of justice and system of laws does your unprincipled cheerleeding for these two criminals encapsulate exactly?

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Originally posted by Ray Gunz I
Were they aiming for the guy's ass? If not, there's no excuse for them. Back to the firing range for the both of 'em I say.
No doubt, during their weapons training, they were told to shoot for center of Mass. the trainees thought the instructor said, "center of Ass". Therefore, i would give the dudes a hearing aid and a slap on the pee pee for their punishment. Then again, could it be that the thugs Ass was his center of Mass?. Now the thug has two ass holes, therefore i would award him an extra roll of Sharmin.

GRANNY.

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Disgusting. Why doesn't he go ahead and pardon Ted Kaczynski while he's at it.

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Originally posted by randolph
Disgusting. Why doesn't he go ahead and pardon Ted Kaczynski while he's at it.
No mileage at this late stage in going after any of Obama's mentors.

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Originally posted by taipei5200
I just read that President Bush has pardoned the two border agents who shot the drug smugler in the ass. Good for them & thank you President Bush. I still believe it should have been a full pardon instead of just commuting their sentence. They should be heroes instead of ex-cons.
Let's be clear. Anyone seen protecting or even thinking about protecting their own borders will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!! 😛

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Originally posted by whodey
Let's be clear. Anyone seen protecting or even thinking about protecting their own borders will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!! 😛
Yeah, the ends justifies the means.

Let people just shoot whomever they think deserves it in the name of "protection".

Vigilantes make the best cops right?

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Originally posted by PsychoPawn
Yeah, the ends justifies the means.

Let people just shoot whomever they think deserves it in the name of "protection".

Vigilantes make the best cops right?
Not so. It all depends where you do the "shooting". Now if they had be say, in the "hood", then all would be well with the world. 😉

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here is the Border Patrol union's rebuttal to the U.S. Attorney's office's release on 16 "myths" about the case.

Too bad they didn't hire no1m! he'd have got them off!

http://rohrabacher.house.gov/UploadedFiles/NBPC%20rebuttal_to_sutton.pdf

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Their sentences were commuted; they weren't pardoned. Nor should they have been:

They were convicted of shooting admitted drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila in the buttocks as he fled across the Rio Grande, away from an abandoned van load of marijuana. The border agents argued during their trials that they believed the smuggler was ...[text shortened]... n on anyone near the border has not been declared contrary to what some right wingers believe.
mmkay, let's back this up a bit. if the doodz tampered with evidence and didn't report the shooting, then they should go to jail for those issues. and of course, something is really fishy if they shoot a guy in the gluteus maximus and claim it was self defence.
Or it would be that 2 stupid rednecks got scared and instead of coming clean they did all that.

but are you saying that border agents are not allowed to shoot smugglers(assuming it really was a smuggler)?

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