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10 Sep 21
Mob Rule has been referred to in several post, leaving mostly smoke. Here is an 'agreeable' site that might shed light on an understanding of it, to be on the same page.
It is short, hopefully you find it pertinent enough, esp in today's society, as many of us seem to have different definitions. How about a sensible discussion ? It will only take 90 seconds to read it.
Sincerely, AverageJoe1
https://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/opinion/columns/column-true-democracy-is-mob-rule/article_0be8b325-5958-5d7b-b49b-d3beb40e4aca.html
@averagejoe1 saidInteresting article. There is not much I would argue with here except point #2 that says:
Mob Rule has been referred to in several post, leaving mostly smoke. Here is an 'agreeable' site that might shed light on an understanding of it, to be on the same page.
It is short, hopefully you find it pertinent enough, esp in today's society, as many of us seem to have different definitions. How about a sensible discussion ? It will only take 90 seconds to re ...[text shortened]... /opinion/columns/column-true-democracy-is-mob-rule/article_0be8b325-5958-5d7b-b49b-d3beb40e4aca.html
"Second, the American system of government must be taught to the next generation. Most millennials have little knowledge of our system of government and the genius of the founders" This is simply incorrect, the basics of our system of government is very much taught in schools in every state in the country, and while I think more time should be spent on it, suggesting today's generation has little or no knowledge of this subject makes no sense whatsoever.
The rest of this article focus's on citizen participation and greater involvement in our state and local governments, and I agree we could use some more of this, but trying to connect the basics of civics and citizen participation with destroying private or public property is a bit like connecting oil and water. As to the subject of mob rule. this article's (less than) subtle slam at left wing protestors could very much apply to those "patriots" on January 6th who did so much damage to our capital building, as well as our beloved right wing folks guilty of attacking Asians, Blacks, Jews, Gay's and Muslims as well as their homes and business's they worked to build.
11 Sep 21
@AverageJoe1
It's as I said the other day, Joe, true democracy has to be kept in line by the Constitution.
And we have a very good one.
11 Sep 21
@mchill saidThankyou McHill, for giving thought on this. I dont pretend to know all the stuff that roars through the Forum, but certainly I would think the average man would agree that Mob Rule in its strictest sense, or any sense, for that matter, is not the way to go.
Interesting article. There is not much I would argue with here except point #2 that says:
"Second, the American system of government must be taught to the next generation. Most millennials have little knowledge of our system of government and the genius of the founders" This is simply incorrect, the basics of our system of government is very much taught in schools in every ...[text shortened]... Asians, Blacks, Jews, Gay's and Muslims as well as their homes and business's they worked to build.
Does anyone here not agree with the article? Is a 51% majority the way to go?
11 Sep 21
@AverageJoe1 - said "Is a 51% majority the way to go?"
Not necessarily, as things like voting on slavery back in the day would have gotten all of 51%.
We need a constitution to intervene. And the Constitution says that "all men are created equal"
but they did not adhere to the constitution, obviously. That's another big problem.
11 Sep 21
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@averagejoe1 saidThankyou McHill, for giving thought on this. I dont pretend to know all the stuff that roars through the Forum, but certainly I would think the average man would agree that Mob Rule in its strictest sense, or any sense, for that matter, is not the way to go.
Thankyou McHill, for giving thought on this. I dont pretend to know all the stuff that roars through the Forum, but certainly I would think the average man would agree that Mob Rule in its strictest sense, or any sense, for that matter, is not the way to go.
Does anyone here not agree with the article? Is a 51% majority the way to go?
I agree, mob rule is not the way to go. That's why we have local, state and federal governing bodies, law enforcement, and a court system. I'm still wondering why this article of yours talks about public participation in our state and local governments, and civics education, then abruptly shifts gears to mention "mob rule" - I'm not making to connection here.
11 Sep 21
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@averagejoe1 saidMob rule is bad. Is that the question you'd like answered?
Mob Rule has been referred to in several post, leaving mostly smoke. Here is an 'agreeable' site that might shed light on an understanding of it, to be on the same page.
It is short, hopefully you find it pertinent enough, esp in today's society, as many of us seem to have different definitions. How about a sensible discussion ? It will only take 90 seconds to re ...[text shortened]... /opinion/columns/column-true-democracy-is-mob-rule/article_0be8b325-5958-5d7b-b49b-d3beb40e4aca.html
I'm with mchill here, though, in that I disagree with the premise that the American form of government is not taught to the next generation. It is. My elementary school kids talk about it a lot in school. Who makes the laws, how/why does that change over time, and how does one become someone who has that kind of power? Its an enormous responsibility.
With regard to definitions of protests vs. mob rule, I think the general state of affairs as it exists today is that mob rule is when you disagree with the message of the protestors, and "mostly peaceful" protest is when you agree with their message.
13 Sep 21
@earl-of-trumps saidYour constitution is outdated to the max.
@AverageJoe1
It's as I said the other day, Joe, true democracy has to be kept in line by the Constitution.
And we have a very good one.
13 Sep 21
@averagejoe1 said51% majority is still better than a 40% majority. 🤔
Thankyou McHill, for giving thought on this. I dont pretend to know all the stuff that roars through the Forum, but certainly I would think the average man would agree that Mob Rule in its strictest sense, or any sense, for that matter, is not the way to go.
Does anyone here not agree with the article? Is a 51% majority the way to go?
Especially those 40% landslide victories !! 😛
@shavixmir saidLiberal idiocy alert!!
Your constitution is outdated to the max.
Dude, your brain is in a severe state of malfunction.
13 Sep 21
@mchill saidI just read it again and do not see anything that waters down the point of the article, the three things it lists do indeed say to get involved in government, whatever, but the thrust of the article regarding mob rule is intact, as far as I read it.
Thankyou McHill, for giving thought on this. I dont pretend to know all the stuff that roars through the Forum, but certainly I would think the average man would agree that Mob Rule in its strictest sense, or any sense, for that matter, is not the way to go.
I agree, mob rule is not the way to go. That's why we have local, state and federal governing bodies, law enforceme ...[text shortened]... ics education, then abruptly shifts gears to mention "mob rule" - I'm not making to connection here.
There are more sites, of course, and I guess we can all agree not one of them says mob rule is a 'good' thing, at least they dont call it that. The libs of the day do, however, want the majority to rule, and, they use the word rule in some cases. Brrrrrrrrrr
13 Sep 21
@shavixmir saidMost foreigners such as yourself think that. You are not alone. Have they had classes, studied, the US Constitution? Oh.
Your constitution is outdated to the max.