Unless your family has an unlimited supply of money or unless you get a scholarship, going to an Ivy for undergrad is for suckers. Go to a good state school for 1/4 the price and you don't have to compete in an all-Valedictorian class and face the insane pressure at these Ivys. Get good grades and good graduate admissions test scores (for which an Ivy league education is of no help anyway) and you'll be in the same graduate schools as the Dartmouth and Columbia kids who are being pushed to suicide by a useless construct.
https://www.yourtango.com/2021341197/ivy-league-schools-are-pushing-bright-minds-suicide
https://www.nhpr.org/post/dartmouth-college-grapples-four-student-deaths-year#stream/0
@sh76
If you have a good state school, then you can simply go to a Jr college for 1/5 the price of a state 4 year, then transfer for two years and get your 4 year degree.
Now go to a good school for your masters and you are set at fraction of the cost. But still, even for middle class families, trying to send a kid to state school represents 10's of thousands in student loans.
The problem with education today is two fold.
The academic requirements for pretty much all degrees are much lower than they were in years past. In other words, degrees are being handed out to people today who would have failed out 20 or 30 years ago.
The cost for that education has sky rocketed.
The net result is that a college degree means less and is much easier to attain as long as you have the finanacial means, be it through faimily wealth or special programs for politically correct ethnic groups.
@mott-the-hoople saideveryone should have access to an education should they want one
democrats scream “education for all”…what happens when “everyone” has equal educations?
Who does the necessary things to survive?
everyone will not want one
don't worry your needs will taken care of by those who choose a different path