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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/prop-29-california-cigarette-tax-hike-lance-armstrong_n_1537858.html
Good or bad? I say good.
Good or bad? I say good.
Revenue generated from the tax increase, which the state Legislative Analyst's Office projects could reach $735 million annually, would be used to pay for cancer research, smoking cessation programs and tobacco law enforcement.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungMy answer would depend on how much money the state already spends on medical expenses related to smoking-caused lung cancer.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/prop-29-california-cigarette-tax-hike-lance-armstrong_n_1537858.html
Good or bad? I say good.
Originally posted by Kewpie
Australia did this around 15 years ago, put an extra tax on tobacco that added about 20% to the price, and used about half the funds earned to fund the Quit campaign which has had a remarkable effect. Few people smoke in public now, it's not permitted in buildings, the number of smokers outside the door has halved, then halved again, over time. Everywhere i e money on relevant medical research has allowed their brains to be addled by smoking, IMHO.
Anyone who votes against increasing tobacco taxes
Originally posted by sh76Indeed. But aren't tobacco taxes in the US quite low? Over here it's about 200%. At some point you cannot raise them much more because evasion and illegal sale will become serious issues.Anyone who votes against increasing tobacco taxes
Increasing to what? By 100%? 200%? 1,000%? 1,000,000%?
The mantra that a tax raise is inherently good is the intellectual equivalent to the mantra that a tax cut is inherently good.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraCigarette taxes vary by state. The problem of people moving cigarettes from state to state and even shipping to states and not paying their taxes is rampant. There was a recent story about people getting caught loading up in neighboring states and then re-selling cigarettes in NY, where taxes are high.
Indeed. But aren't tobacco taxes in the US quite low? Over here it's about 200%. At some point you cannot raise them much more because evasion and illegal sale will become serious issues.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThere is already a thriving black market in cigarettes in the US.
Indeed. But aren't tobacco taxes in the US quite low? Over here it's about 200%. At some point you cannot raise them much more because evasion and illegal sale will become serious issues.
Originally posted by KewpieThe United States decided in 1791 to remain with a somewhat stronger Federal government than under the articles of Confederation, but still with the States retaining the bulk of legislative and taxing power.
Australia doesn't have the problem of differing State taxes because after Federation the states handed over their taxing powers to the Commonwealth in return for an agreed division of the total tax take. We may be a "united states of australia" but all the important stuff is dealt with by the federal part of the system.
http://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.a ...[text shortened]... er countries appear to be taking even more of the cigarette cost as tax than Australia does.
Originally posted by sh76Aren't cigarettes in NY north of $10 a pack? Brand names are over $6 a pack in Michigan, and about 80% of that is tax. I suspect that States like Kentucky still have taxation over 100%.
Cigarette taxes vary by state. The problem of people moving cigarettes from state to state and even shipping to states and not paying their taxes is rampant. There was a recent story about people getting caught loading up in neighboring states and then re-selling cigarettes in NY, where taxes are high.
Originally posted by normbenignExpensive cigarettes - the fancy girly flavored ones - cost $6 in CA from what I remember. Marlboros are like $4. I'm not a tobacco smoker so I'm not sure but those were the prices when I worked in a smoke shop some years ago.
Aren't cigarettes in NY north of $10 a pack? Brand names are over $6 a pack in Michigan, and about 80% of that is tax. I suspect that States like Kentucky still have taxation over 100%.
If taxing cigarettes was the way to prosperity, and low deficits, then legalize all drugs, and impose similar taxes.