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I heard a report on the news just a few minutes ago that said something to the effect of the
following:

The city of Philadelphia has imposed a city-wide ban on smoking in public places. Consequently,
smoking in bars and restaurants will now be prohibited.

Last time a checked, bars and restaurants were private enterprises. And, as far as I know, my
tax dollars don't pay to keep them in business. Why would I have a right to expect that
they would be smoke free? Why does the city feel like it has a governmental duty to impose
such a prohibition?

This seems to go beyond any reasonable understanding of freedom of property with which I am
familiar.

Nemesio

Edit: I may have misunderstood the report, as I didn't give it my full attention until after the
announcement was made, so I apologize if I have inadvertantly misrepresnted the legislature of
Philadelphia.

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Originally posted by Nemesio
I heard a report on the news just a few minutes ago that said something to the effect of the
following:

The city of Philadelphia has imposed a city-wide ban on smoking in public places. Consequently,
smoking in bars and restaurants will now be prohibited.

Last time a checked, bars and restaurants were private enterprises. And, as far ...[text shortened]... s made, so I apologize if I have inadvertantly misrepresnted the legislature of
Philadelphia.
Do you think it is fair for the government to ban discharging of weapons in public places?

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Originally posted by Nemesio
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Last time a checked, bars and restaurants were private enterprises. And, as far as I know, my
tax dollars don't pay to keep them in business. Why would I have a right to expect that
they would be smoke free? Why does the city feel like it has a governmental duty to impose
such a prohibition?
Why should a person have the right to not be refused service at a restaurant due to his race?
Does the city have a duty to impose a prohibition against such refusal of service?

Why should a person have the right to have a restaurant be subject to health inspections?
Does the city have a duty to impose a prohibition against leaving meat on the floor of the kitchen?

It has been a long, long time since businesses were actually private enterprises in this country.

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Originally posted by Nemesio
I heard a report on the news just a few minutes ago that said something to the effect of the
following:

The city of Philadelphia has imposed a city-wide ban on smoking in public places. Consequently,
smoking in bars and restaurants will now be prohibited.

Last time a checked, bars and restaurants were private enterprises. And, as far ...[text shortened]... s made, so I apologize if I have inadvertantly misrepresnted the legislature of
Philadelphia.
This has been happening here in Australia for sometime.
I think it's got something to do with the fact that cigarettes are DAMAGING TO YOUR HEALTH.
And to be quite honest they stink.
If someone wants to smoke, they're welcome to.
If they want to impose it on others - me - they can f%$k off!

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This has been in place in Ireland for nearly two and a half years now, even smokers think that pubs and resteraunts are now a bit more pleasent to be in. One unfortunate side effect is that smells that the smoke used to mask are now more prevelant. . .farts being the more obvious one.

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
This has been in place in Ireland for nearly two and a half years now, even smokers think that pubs and resteraunts are now a bit more pleasent to be in. One unfortunate side effect is that smells that the smoke used to mask are now more prevelant. . .farts being the more obvious one.
Maybe we could ban farting in public places?

Wait .... aaaahh!

Maybe not.

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Originally posted by Nemesio
I heard a report on the news just a few minutes ago that said something to the effect of the
following:

The city of Philadelphia has imposed a city-wide ban on smoking in public places. Consequently,
smoking in bars and restaurants will now be prohibited.

Last time a checked, bars and restaurants were private enterprises. And, as far ...[text shortened]... s made, so I apologize if I have inadvertantly misrepresnted the legislature of
Philadelphia.
I guess smokers and pubs lose their "rights" when their actions have negative and in some circumstance, quite dangerous impacts on the people around them. Recently it has been proven that barmen and barmaids have gotten cancer because of second hand smoke.

Plus it is more pleasant for the majority non smokers. I hate it when I walk around a pub or club and come home with 7 burn marks, 5 holes in my t – shirts and smelling like an ashtray.

Here in Western Australia, they have banned smoking at pubs, clubs, restaurants and even beaches and it is great. I don’t have to put up with that carcinogenic horrible smell anymore and those little butts lying around everywhere.

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Originally posted by Esoteric
I hate it when I walk around a pub or club and come home with 7 burn marks, 5 holes in my t – shirts and smelling like an ashtray.
This is often brought up to highlight the fact that smoking is bad ...

... in all the years I've been smoking and at crowded bars and parties with smokers, I've never been burnt or had holes put in clothing by cigarettes ...

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Originally posted by treetalk
This is often brought up to highlight the fact that smoking is bad ...

... in all the years I've been smoking and at crowded bars and parties with smokers, I've never been burnt or had holes put in clothing by cigarettes ...
I've had plenty. but i would say that is a minor complaint. It is the junk that fills my lungs which is the major complaint.

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Originally posted by Esoteric
I guess smokers and pubs lose their "rights" when their actions have negative and in some circumstance, quite dangerous impacts on the people around them. Recently it has been proven that barmen and barmaids have gotten cancer because of second hand smoke.

Plus it is more pleasant for the majority non smokers. I hate it when I walk around a pub or club ...[text shortened]... with that carcinogenic horrible smell anymore and those little butts lying around everywhere.
So if the barmen and barmaids are smokers then smoking is allowed in that bar.