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  1. 27 Dec '10 02:15
    Just out of curiousity, where do many of you draw the line between ownership and regulation? For example, you could argue that criminals in prison are regulated. They are free to do as they please, but only in the confines of the prison, yet the state basically owns them.
  2. 27 Dec '10 02:19
    Originally posted by whodey
    Just out of curiousity, where do many of you draw the line between ownership and regulation? For example, you could argue that criminals in prison are regulated. They are free to do as they please, but only in the confines of the prison, yet the state basically owns them.
    They are free to do as they please?!
  3. 27 Dec '10 02:25
    Originally posted by whodey
    Just out of curiousity, where do many of you draw the line between ownership and regulation? For example, you could argue that criminals in prison are regulated. They are free to do as they please, but only in the confines of the prison, yet the state basically owns them.
    Ha! Classic. Oh, yes, it is like a holiday in prison. You do as you please. Lounge around, watching t.v. and playing bocce.
  4. 27 Dec '10 02:34
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    They are free to do as they please?!
    Within the confines of the cell, yes.
  5. 27 Dec '10 02:34
    Originally posted by CliffLandin
    Ha! Classic. Oh, yes, it is like a holiday in prison. You do as you please. Lounge around, watching t.v. and playing bocce.
    This is not a thread on Assange, this is a legitimate question.
  6. 27 Dec '10 02:36
    Originally posted by whodey
    Within the confines of the cell, yes.
    First you said "within the confines of the prison" now you move the goal post to "within their cells". Both are wrong and not based in reality.
  7. 27 Dec '10 02:37
    Originally posted by whodey
    Within the confines of the cell, yes.
    I'm pretty certain that you would be someones property in prison.
  8. 27 Dec '10 03:00
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    First you said "within the confines of the prison" now you move the goal post to "within their cells". Both are wrong and not based in reality.
    My question is, at what point is regulation be interpreted as ownership? Throw out the prison/prison cell example if you like.
  9. 27 Dec '10 08:51
    Your question is too vague to warrant discussion. Be more specific.
  10. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    27 Dec '10 09:49
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Your question is too vague to warrant discussion. Be more specific.
    .....Assuming Whodesque pose.....

    At what level of unbridled Governmental regulation do you the citizen become the property of the State?
  11. 27 Dec '10 18:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    Just out of curiousity, where do many of you draw the line between ownership and regulation? For example, you could argue that criminals in prison are regulated. They are free to do as they please, but only in the confines of the prison, yet the state basically owns them.
    There is no line whodey, it all depends on the language you use to describe these hypothetical situations. at this very moment you are property of the state, if you don't pay your bills you suffer consequences, you are already enslaved by the society you live in, freedom is an illusion. There is no freedom if you can't run around naked while refusing to pay bills, I personally believe its for you to rebel against your government and your society for keeping you down for so long.

    so raise your fists in the air at begin the revolution at once comrade!
  12. 28 Dec '10 06:11
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    There is no line whodey, it all depends on the language you use to describe these hypothetical situations. at this very moment you are property of the state, if you don't pay your bills you suffer consequences, you are already enslaved by the society you live in, freedom is an illusion. There is no freedom if you can't run around naked while refusing ...[text shortened]... down for so long.

    so raise your fists in the air at begin the revolution at once comrade!
    At what point would you rebel?
  13. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    28 Dec '10 06:14
    Originally posted by whodey
    At what point would you rebel?
    At no point, he's lining himself up for a position with the Stazi.
  14. 28 Dec '10 06:15
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    freedom is an illusion.
    I could say the same about control.
  15. 28 Dec '10 06:16
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    At no point, he's lining himself up for a position with the Stazi.
    Ya vol!!