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i don't care much for government control but i do think that there should be a law put in place that retail shops and mall stores should be required to have apartments on the second story. it is a waste of vertical space not to use the second story and apartments over shops would create more opportunity for people to live closer to where they work. parking could be by permit in the mall lot. i would limit the occupancy to older people without children so children don't have to play around cars and i would build smaller units of one bedroom flats.

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Originally posted by reinfeld
i don't care much for government control but i do think that there should be a law put in place that retail shops and mall stores should be required to have apartments on the second story. it is a waste of vertical space not to use the second story and apartments over shops would create more opportunity for people to live closer to where they work. parkin ...[text shortened]... children don't have to play around cars and i would build smaller units of one bedroom flats.
Why not let the free market determine who builds and lives where (within applicable zoning laws, of course)? If it's most efficient to build residential units over stores, people will do it, regardless of whether you force them to.

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It seems that many zoning laws specifically prohibit this sort of thing.

I agree with reinfeld - it would make a lot of sense to have commercial outlets including malls rent out unused space for residential use. These would be people who would be able to live literally right above the place where they would be doing all their shopping - meaning that they wouldn't have to use their car for this purpose.

I don't think there would need to be a requirement - just eliminate the zoning laws and let the free market do its thing.

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Seems to be more of a cultural thing, apartments above retail stores are pretty common here.

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common in europe but not in the usa. this type of building and extensive trolley systems are two things the usa needs to learn from europe.

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Originally posted by reinfeld
common in europe but not in the usa. this type of building and extensive trolley systems are two things the usa needs to learn from europe.
You this type of building in the older downtowns and main streets (generally places that were built before WW II).

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Originally posted by reinfeld
common in europe but not in the usa. this type of building and extensive trolley systems are two things the usa needs to learn from europe.
You haven't been to New York much, have you?

In New York, residential apartments above commercial stores are par for the course; and not just in Manhattan, in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx too.

As for the trolley, we tried that (where do you think the Brooklyn Dodgers got their name? People "dodging" trolleys) Some cities, like Boston and SF still run trolleys. Most cities have moves their train systems underground. There's no room for an above ground trolley system in Manhattan.

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i.e., places where people don't have a choice.

who'd live over a store if they could buy something that WASN'T over a store?

most places here aren't crammed together like that.

there is a billboard in Houston for a house rental company, with a cartoon bee on it: "Live like people, not like bees!"

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Originally posted by sh76
You haven't been to New York much, have you?

In New York, residential apartments above commercial stores are par for the course; and not just in Manhattan, in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx too.

As for the trolley, we tried that (where do you think the Brooklyn Dodgers got their name? People "dodging" trolleys) Some cities, like Boston and SF still run tr ...[text shortened]... train systems underground. There's no room for an above ground trolley system in Manhattan.
"most" NE "cities", maybe.

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unless i get near 80 percent agreement on my posts i am going to have emotional problems.

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Originally posted by reinfeld
unless i get near 80 percent agreement on my posts i am going to have emotional problems.
Well, FWIW, I agree that having apartments over stores is efficient. 😉

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
"most" NE "cities", maybe.
Is that right? I know the Bay Area has the BART. Come to think of it, you're right that most major western cities (Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Vegas, etc.) don't have subway systems. Do midwestern cities like St. Louis, Chicago and Houston have subways?

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