reposted in PC language: The UN makes another major mistake.
this thread was deleted poste haste when posted previously so read fast.
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Note when this little episode happened 25.may.2006 (below).
Note when the press were allowed to publish a hint of a scandal june 04.
did this get into your major world press? did you see it on TV?
this isnt the first time the UN has muzzled/curtailed press coverage of their massive blunders/ slaughters. ask someone in the know about karimoja warriors in Uganda, you will be appalled at that little episode also.
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UN order fuels cover-up claim
From: AAP By Rob Taylor And Olivia Rondonuwu
June 04, 2006
THE United Nations has ordered staff in East Timor not to co-operate with Australian Federal Police investigating the massacre of 12 unarmed Timorese officers by renegade soldiers, prompting allegations of a cover-up.
An email from the UN's deputy representative in Timor, Pakistani General Anis Bajwa, had been circulated to all staff, including employees evacuated to Australia, directing them not to assist AFP detectives investigating the worst atrocity since the violence of 1999.
A copy of the email had been passed to Australia's Embassy in Dili, outraged diplomats and AFP sources confirmed to AAP.
Earlier today the UN denied the email existed, but UN spokesman Bob Sullivan tonight contacted AAP and admitted a directive had been sent out in an email to all staff.
"We made a mistake here," he said. "An email instruction was sent out telling staff to wait for the start of the official investigation.
"We said any comment before that would have to be cleared."
But the UN was willing to co-operate when eventually asked to by the East Timor government, Mr Sullivan said.
Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer yesterday met senior UN officials and East Timorese President Xanana Gusmao to urge full co-operation with the investigation into the murders, which took place on May 25 outside the UN police headquarters.
Mr Downer urged the need for a "thorough investigation" by the AFP.
A senior adviser to East Timorese Foreign Minister Jose Ramos Horta today told AAP his country's government had pledged a full investigation, handing the job to the AFP to ensure no-one interfered or hid any facts.
The massacre of the East Timorese officers occurred after renegade soldiers opened fire on the police as they left their headquarters under a truce brokered by the UN's police commander in Dili, Saif Malik, also from Pakistan.
Malik ignored advice that to lead unarmed Timorese police past the guns of the soldiers would lead to a massacre.
"He was told by all his advisers not to take them out there, but he would not listen," sources close to the investigation said.
"He kept insisting the presence of the UN could protect them."
Instead the police were escorted out behind a blue UN flag and got less than 100 metres from their headquarters when two soldiers opened fire, killing 12 officers and wounding at least 20, including UN police protectors from the Philippines.
The soldiers executed several wounded police at point-blank range, firing shotguns into their heads, sources within the AFP said.
"It looks like the UN or Malik or someone wants to bury it all now," one investigator said.
Investigators are studying photographs apparently taken during the shootings.
Junior inspector Felner Cortereal was shot three times but survived the massacre, and was recovering today at Dili's main hospital.
His wife, Madalena Sanches, was shot in the back and stomach, and almost died while being evacuated to Darwin.
Insp Cortereal confirmed UN police assured the terrified Timorese officers they would be safe as they emerged to find three soldiers with "big guns" facing them to the left and right.
"They (the UN) said: 'Just relax, they won't shoot, because we have negotiated with them,"' he said. "They said it had worked in other countries.
"Maybe they believed that principle, but we were not confident."
The death toll could have been even higher, he said, except the soldiers had fired wildly, spraying shots in all directions.
Insp Cortereal said the atrocity should not be pushed aside to protect the UN's reputation.
"For me now, we must get to the roots of this, find out why it happened," he said.
Going back a few years ...
Australia sought help from America to avoid blood shed during East Timor's vote for independence from Indonesia.
America declined, despite having a navy ship nearby, with subsequent deaths of thousands.
A friend's mother worked for the UN and she also died.
America claims that it acts to bring peace and democracry.
Q: Why would America invade Iraq but not help East Timor ?
A: Bush's financial interests in oil and military equipment. His claims about peace and democracy are complete lies.
Originally posted by Sambo69Holy dear Allah. What is up with people beating the dead horse about oil!? Cheese and rice, we only get 2% of our oil from Iraq. Most of our oil is from ourselves and Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. Halliburton is another story. But Democracy wil never work in the Middle East, Idon't see why he bothers.
Going back a few years ...
Australia sought help from America to avoid blood shed during East Timor's vote for independence from Indonesia.
America declined, despite having a navy ship nearby, with subsequent deaths of thousands.
A friend's mother worked for the UN and she also died.
America claims that it acts to bring peace and democracry.
Q ...[text shortened]... erests in oil and military equipment. His claims about peace and democracy are complete lies.
The UN is a globalist orginazation hellbent on a one-world government. And they are more corrupt than Tammany Hall back in the day.
Originally posted by PaintbucketThe concept of UN is right but the execution may have shortcomings. UN does many good things around the world. We should work together to address its shortcomings.
Holy dear Allah. What is up with people beating the dead horse about oil!? Cheese and rice, we only get 2% of our oil from Iraq. Most of our oil is from ourselves and Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. Halliburton is another story. But Democracy wil never work in the Middle East, Idon't see why he bothers.
The UN is a globalist orginazation hellbent on a one-world government. And they are more corrupt than Tammany Hall back in the day.
America imports around 60% of its oil.
saudi arabia, iran and iraq have very large conventional oil reserves which can be cheaply extracted from the ground.
canada has very large oil sands which are a bit expensive, and environmentally messy to extract
the us has very large shale oil reserves which are very expensive, and environmentally messy to extract.
and so the price of oil is set by accessibility to the middle eastern reserves.
i wonder what would happen if canada signed a deal to provide china with all the oil from their sands reserves?
Originally posted by DelmerWell, look at how fidgety that oil futures people are. Even the rumour of a decrease in production and the price skyrockets. If, let's say, the amount of oil produced went down by 20% tomorrow, it'd lead to huge restructuring of the global economies. People wouldn't be able to afford it, and huge amounts of research would go into nuclear and other alternate power supplies. But 2% is just right, enough to make oil more or less scarce and hence change the price, but not enough to promote a paradigm shift.
How so? Care to go into more detail?
Originally posted by scottishinnzOkay... I can see the validity in that reasoning.
Well, look at how fidgety that oil futures people are. Even the rumour of a decrease in production and the price skyrockets. If, let's say, the amount of oil produced went down by 20% tomorrow, it'd lead to huge restructuring of the global economies. People wouldn't be able to afford it, and huge amounts of research would go into nuclear and other al ...[text shortened]... l more or less scarce and hence change the price, but not enough to promote a paradigm shift.
Originally posted by Sambo69so what have they been doing for the past 50 years; working apart to address its longcomings??? at this rate, where will be be in the next 50 years?
The concept of UN is right but the execution may have shortcomings. UN does many good things around the world. We should work together to address its shortcomings.
"many good things around the world", the contary is true, of all the bad things in the world, the UN has a very high profile, and is set to continue in that manner. The problem is, when one gets entrenched, one tends to look after ones high paying high status job and if that is to the detriment of the well being of others, so be it.
clean the slate, sack all the sharp elbowed sycophants and start again from scratch, rebuild the whole organisation and totally redefine its whole charter, but by all means never re-employ any of the current staff and use very very few of its current ideals or practices.
Originally posted by scottishinnzis that just price speculation?
Well, look at how fidgety that oil futures people are. Even the rumour of a decrease in production and the price skyrockets. If, let's say, the amount of oil produced went down by 20% tomorrow, it'd lead to huge restructuring of the global economies. People wouldn't be able to afford it, and huge amounts of research would go into nuclear and other al ...[text shortened]... l more or less scarce and hence change the price, but not enough to promote a paradigm shift.