@metal-brain saidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule
“It’s Time For All Of Us Left And Right To Ban Against The Ruling Class”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=labp1naU-10&t=64s
Wise up people. The ruling class has manipulated you both. Time to find common ground instead of fighting each other over stupid rhetoric.
@metal-brain saidI agree that both are flawed but it's too lazy to simply dismiss both as equally wrong.
“It’s Time For All Of Us Left And Right To Ban Against The Ruling Class”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=labp1naU-10&t=64s
Wise up people. The ruling class has manipulated you both. Time to find common ground instead of fighting each other over stupid rhetoric.
One side clearly favors the ruling class and gives lavish tax breaks and power to that ruling class. Take a wild guess which side that is?
@metal-brain saidThis all sounds fine, but this lady is a bit short on details on how to make all this happen. Mitch McConnell is not going to stop being influenced by oil and coal companies, anymore than Nancy Pelosi is going to stop being influenced by environmental groups, - and neither are those coming after these two in the future. There have been a number movements to stop the influence of special interest groups in our lawmaking process since the 1960's , all of which have died, stillborn in closed door committee meetings, and manipulative language, quietly tucked away amid the thousands of pages of text that make up our lawmaking process .
“It’s Time For All Of Us Left And Right To Ban Against The Ruling Class”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=labp1naU-10&t=64s
Wise up people. The ruling class has manipulated you both. Time to find common ground instead of fighting each other over stupid rhetoric.
I agree with her thought that competing media groups profit handsomely by telling each side that the other is to blame for the nation's problems, but until enough people are willing to turn off the TV, and stop sneaking peeks at their corresponding websites and start thinking for themselves, it's just not going to happen.
This young lady did a good job at assessing the problem, and I appreciate her sincerity, but this has been tried many times in the past. The devil is in the details, and making her vision a reality is going to require a lot more detailed planning and execution than simply "banning together"
@mchill saidI agree with most of what you wrote, but I don't think U.S. television is completely to blame. I've noticed that people with certain personalities will naturally gravitate toward shows with bias.
This all sounds fine, but this lady is a bit short on details on how to make all this happen. Mitch McConnell is not going to stop being influenced by oil companies, anymore than Nancy Pelosi is going to stop being influenced by environmental groups - and neither are those coming after these two in the future. There have been a number movements to stop the influence of special ...[text shortened]... eality is going to require a lot more detailed planning and execution than simply "banning together"
Fox News doesn't make people more biased, it only feeds bias of people looking to reinforce their beliefs. For example, Fox News had a significant drop in ratings after declaring Trump lost Arizona. Those Fox viewers were angry that their bias wasn't reinforced. If they were simply innocent sheep being manipulated by a network, they would've accepted Fox News stating Trump lost Arizona; and they wouldn't attack the rare few Fox anchors like Shep Smith who actually criticized Trump.
So while I understand your "turn off the news" statement, that's not the problem. The issue is American culture that fosters everything the OP is attacking. White conservative Christians are the largest demographic in America; it's this group, more than any other, that's responsible for giving power to the ruling class in America.
19 Jun 21
@vivify saidBoth.
I agree that both are flawed but it's too lazy to simply dismiss both as equally wrong.
One side clearly favors the ruling class and gives lavish tax breaks and power to that ruling class. Take a wild guess which side that is?
They are both equally wrong. Not about every single issue, but in general.
If you understood politics well you would know that.
Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. Biden did the same with Trump's tax cuts.
It is painfully obvious the US is a plutocracy and which political party is benefiting the rich makes no difference to them. How is Biden different than Trump in policy only?
You were duped and it was easy for them. That is because you wanted to believe it.
"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves."
Eric Hoffer
19 Jun 21
@vivify saidIt is called seeking confirmation bias and you do that as well. I watch the corporate news media every day. Then I listen to Kim Iversen and Jimmy Dore. I suggest you do the same.
I agree with most of what you wrote, but I don't think U.S. television is completely to blame. I've noticed that people with certain personalities will naturally gravitate toward shows with bias.
Fox News doesn't make people more biased, it only feeds bias of people looking to reinforce their beliefs. For example, Fox News had a significant drop in ratings after declari ...[text shortened]... this group, more than any other, that's responsible for giving power to the ruling class in America.
It just so happens Kim and Jimmy do a much better job cutting through the crap and finding the truth.
19 Jun 21
@mchill saidYou are blaming others so you do not have to accept any blame.
This all sounds fine, but this lady is a bit short on details on how to make all this happen. Mitch McConnell is not going to stop being influenced by oil and coal companies, anymore than Nancy Pelosi is going to stop being influenced by environmental groups, - and neither are those coming after these two in the future. There have been a number movements to stop the influence ...[text shortened]... eality is going to require a lot more detailed planning and execution than simply "banning together"
I am sensing that you simply don't want to change you political bias and you are making up poor excuses for it just like viv did.
@kquinn909 saidI'm pleased you understand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule
Both sides are being played against one another like 2 slaves fighting each other while their slave masters laugh. That just helps the slave master believe he rules over the inferior because they are too stupid to ever run things. That is how the elites view the common people, too stupid to know what is best.
They need us because they are too stupid to rule. That is what the elites think.
19 Jun 21
@metal-brain saidJimmy Dore is another right-wing partisan hack. He frequently has far-right guests on his shows and defends Trump just like any other right-winger.
It is called seeking confirmation bias and you do that as well. I watch the corporate news media every day. Then I listen to Kim Iversen and Jimmy Dore. I suggest you do the same.
It just so happens Kim and Jimmy do a much better job cutting through the crap and finding the truth.
If I have to recommend a right-winger, it would be Crystal Ball of the Hill. So far, she seems to be the most fair-minded right-winger I know of.
19 Jun 21
@vivify saidYou are wrong again.
Jimmy Dore is another right-wing partisan hack. He frequently has far-right guests on his shows and defends Trump just like any other right-winger.
If I have to recommend a right-winger, it would be Crystal Ball of the Hill. So far, she seems to be the most fair-minded right-winger I know of.
Jimmy Dore is a left winger and most of the guests on his show are left wingers. Dore even bought into the man made global warming theory that I strongly disagree with. It is one of the few things I disagree with him about. He is not a partisan hack either. He criticizes Trump and Biden both much like I do.
You did too much assuming. Get back to reality.
19 Jun 21
@metal-brain saidI know what the elites think, snd its not that.
I'm pleased you understand.
Both sides are being played against one another like 2 slaves fighting each other while their slave masters laugh. That just helps the slave master believe he rules over the inferior because they are too stupid to ever run things. That is how the elites view the common people, too stupid to know what is best.
They need us because they are too stupid to rule. That is what the elites think.
19 Jun 21
@metal-brain saidNo, I've watched Dore. He's a right-wing hack. By no stretch of the imagination is that guy "left-wing".
You are wrong again.
Jimmy Dore is a left winger and most of the guests on his show are left wingers. Dore even bought into the man made global warming theory that I strongly disagree with. It is one of the few things I disagree with him about. He is not a partisan hack either. He criticizes Trump and Biden both much like I do.
You did too much assuming. Get back to reality.
If merely believing in global warming makes someone "left-wing" to you, then you are exactly the extremist we all thought you were.
19 Jun 21
@vivify saidYou are a liar. He is a leftist progressive.
No, I've watched Dore. He's a right-wing hack. By no stretch of the imagination is that guy "left-wing".
If merely believing in global warming makes someone "left-wing" to you, then you are exactly the extremist we all thought you were.