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Roaring 20's and Ciudad Juarez

Roaring 20's and Ciudad Juarez

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AThousandYoung
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Just as prohibition on alcohol led to tremendous gang violence in the 20's, prohibition on other recreational drugs has led to the current chaos in northern Mexico.

Agree or disagree? Why?

zeeblebot

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you're the expert! ...

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what happened to the troop surge in juarez? ...

AThousandYoung
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Originally posted by zeeblebot
what happened to the troop surge in juarez? ...
The gangsters went underground.

http://www.javno.com/en-world/mexico-drug-violence-rises-on-border-despite-army_257290

I've also heard the Army backs one of the cartels, and the police the other cartel.

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AThousandYoung
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Originally posted by zeeblebot
http://www.javno.com/en-world/what-lives-of-mafia-girlfriends-are-really-like_278290
These guys are bad news, man. They're like the Taliban but lack the religious fundamentalism.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
These guys are bad news, man. They're like the Taliban but lack the religious fundamentalism.
i like this story

Guzmán reportedly strolled into restaurant called "Las Palmas" in Nuevo Laredo, with a fleet of bodyguards. After taking his seat, his men collected the cell phones of approximately thirty diners and instructed them to not be alarmed. "The gangsters then ate their meal and left - paying for everyone else in the restaurant".

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If just marijuana alone were legalized in the U.S. that would take a big bite out of the cartels on both sides of the border. But even if we put the pragmatic considerations aside (less crime, more tax revenue, safer dope), I believe in legalization of all "soft" drugs and most "hard" drugs on purely libertarian grounds.

Basically, Obama and Congress should get together and at the very least repeal all the federal laws pertaining to marijuana. Let the states decide whether it should be legal or not. Culturally speaking, states like California and Oregon are radically different from states like Oklahoma and Alabama, and it's just idiotic to have a blanket law from sea to sea that -- and let's admit it -- unfairly favors a dwindling conservative attitude toward drugs at the expense of individual liberty.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Just as prohibition on alcohol led to tremendous gang violence in the 20's, prohibition on other recreational drugs has led to the current chaos in northern Mexico.

Agree or disagree? Why?
Agreed, the main criminal element comes from prohibition of drugs. Medical marijuana has already made a dent into cartel profits as mom-and-pop shops offer affordable supplies that don't have as many barriers getting there.

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http://projects.latimes.com/mexico-drug-war/#/its-a-war

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Just as prohibition on alcohol led to tremendous gang violence in the 20's, prohibition on other recreational drugs has led to the current chaos in northern Mexico.

Agree or disagree? Why?
Generally agree. for the last 40+ years Americas "war on drugs" has put many people behind bars, but with the right connections, anyone can purchase any drug they want. This "feel good" drug policy of Americas (supported by Americas right wing) has only enriched drug dealers, and created a drug mistique causing even more people to be drawn to drug use.😏

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To the governments of North America:

Our Right to Pursue Happiness is Unalienable. That means you can't take it away.

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Originally posted by bill718
Generally agree. for the last 40+ years Americas "war on drugs" has put many people behind bars, but with the right connections, anyone can purchase any drug they want. This "feel good" drug policy of Americas (supported by Americas right wing) has only enriched drug dealers, and created a drug mistique causing even more people to be drawn to drug use.😏
Anyone with the right connections can do just about anything illegal. I am sure the 9/11 hijackers had the right connections. That doesn't mean that any law that can be avoided with the right connections is a "feel good" policy.

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