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Originally posted by AThousandYoungYou can be "reasonable and intelligent" and still be very conservative (or very liberal). I can't imagine that many of us would argue against the proposition, for example, that Sleepyguy is both "reasonable and intelligent" and substantially conservative. On the other side, Kunsoo, while being well left of center and too much into reading and quoting only left wing hit-websites, can certainly be described as "reasonable and intelligent."
He claims he isn't a Republican and despite his passionate posts about political issues he is reasonable and intelligent in my opinion. Anyway he claims I'm a centrist and anyone that claims I'm a centrist is clearly not on the lunatic fringe. Those people think I'm a radical leftist.
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Originally posted by sh76Thank you for the compliment. I haven't followed the discussion, but I would add that probably we are all more reasonable in real life than we are in a forum like this - in which though we have intense arguments, we tend to be more respectful than on many of the other forums. I think the degree to which we post things which are less than reasonable, we do so because it's fun.
You can be "reasonable and intelligent" and still be very conservative (or very liberal). I can't imagine that many of us would argue against the proposition, for example, that Sleepyguy is both "reasonable and intelligent" and substantially conservative. On the other side, Kunsoo, while being well left of center and too much into reading and quoting only left wing hit-websites, can certainly be described as "reasonable and intelligent."
I will disclose that for all my blustering, I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen in November. None. In 2008 I had a pretty good feeling at this time for Obama. By this time in 2004 I had a sinking feeling, even before the Swift Boat thing. In 2000 I had no idea.
And it looks like even Nate Silver has no idea. Obama could get a big bounce which evaporates with Friday's jobs reports, although the past couple of months' jobs reports haven't moved the polls much. It may be that you blame one side or the other for the unemployment rate, and the undecideds don't blame either side, or some undecideds are waiting for this and September's report, which isn't bound to be good. The President can blame Congress, but it's a tough sell even if it's true. For whatever reason, the message has sold in Pennsylvania and Nevada, but definitely not in Missouri which doesn't look like it will even be a race even with the Akin factor. I look forward to a Nate Silver analysis as to why Missouri went from purple to red while Nevada seems to be veering to a long term blue.
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Originally posted by KunsooWith these unemployment numbers, if the Republicans had nominated a more viable candidate they could have arguably walked away with this election. Yet, as it is now, a vulnerable sitting president may be reelected with this level of unemployment. Thank you Romney for having such high unfavorables.
Thank you for the compliment. I haven't followed the discussion, but I would add that probably we are all more reasonable in real life than we are in a forum like this - in which though we have intense arguments, we tend to be more respectful than on many of the other forums. I think the degree to which we post things which are less than reasonable, we do s issouri went from purple to red while Nevada seems to be veering to a long term blue.
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By the way, one of the leftist sites I often quote is Talking Points Memo. It is indeed leftist, but that doesn't mean it's completely unobjective. They do call the left on its crap sometimes, as they did this morning with regard to Obama's attack on the Republican Medicare policy.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/romney-ryan-medicare-voucher-6400-sebelius.php?ref=fpnewsfeed