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Can Russia use hyper sonic nuclear missiles to sink every single US aircraft carrier it has without the aircraft carriers being able to defend themselves?

Can hyper sonic missiles do that which are not nuclear, but conventional weapons?

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/6/7/iran-has-a-hypersonic-missile-what-does-that-mean

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/middleeast/iran-new-hypersonic-missile-mime-intl/index.html

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@Metal-Brain
And you would be dancing in the streets if that happened, won't you COMRADE?

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@sonhouse
Irrelevant. I am only asking if it is possible?

Why did the USA invest so much of their military power into air craft carriers that are so vulnerable to new super sonic missiles? A first strike from Russia can take all of them out. Then what is Biden going to do?

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@Metal-Brain said
Can Russia use hyper sonic nuclear missiles to sink every single US aircraft carrier it has without the aircraft carriers being able to defend themselves?

Can hyper sonic missiles do that which are not nuclear, but conventional weapons?

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/6/7/iran-has-a-hypersonic-missile-what-does-that-mean

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/middleeast/iran-new-hypersonic-missile-mime-intl/index.html
Didn’t Japan try something like that once?

Didn’t work too well for them.

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Irrelevant meaning I was right, you WANT the US to fail COMRADE.

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@AThousandYoung said
Didn’t Japan try something like that once?

Didn’t work too well for them.
LOL!
Japan did not have hyper sonic missiles or nukes. But what aircraft carrier are you referring to?

If Russia does ever decide to do a first strike every single US aircraft carrier will end up at the bottom of the ocean. The USA put too many eggs in one basket. The reality is that aircraft carriers are sitting ducks for a first strike advantage.

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@Metal-Brain said
LOL!
Japan did not have hyper sonic missiles or nukes. But what aircraft carrier are you referring to?

If Russia does ever decide to do a first strike every single US aircraft carrier will end up at the bottom of the ocean. The USA put too many eggs in one basket. The reality is that aircraft carriers are sitting ducks for a first strike advantage.
He was talking about what you were talking about. A First Strike. Durrr...

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@Metal-Brain said
@sonhouse
Irrelevant. I am only asking if it is possible?

Why did the USA invest so much of their military power into air craft carriers that are so vulnerable to new super sonic missiles? A first strike from Russia can take all of them out. Then what is Biden going to do?
Proud of those missiles, are ya?

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Oh, you thought the US navy leaders are so stupid they don't know the vulnerabilities of air craft carriers?
Did you perhaps forget the reason we have atomic powered subs?
And did you forget the part where your orange blob would be dictator actually showed on of those top secret docs to that Aussie billionaire about that one weapon, specifically talking to him about that doc that said how close our subs can get to Russian subs undetected, I guess you must have been applauding Trump for revealing that TS doc.

Your obvious treason comes out full tilt now.

You know, the part that say it is treason to aid and abet the enemy?

You dissing our military is as close to treason as you can get and still be free to post your trolling BULLSHYYYTE.

You are an affront to anyone who actually served in our military like me for instance.
So how did you get out of serving? Bone spurs like your would be dictator? Or was it just plain cowardice?

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@Metal-Brain said
Can Russia use hyper sonic nuclear missiles to sink every single US aircraft carrier it has without the aircraft carriers being able to defend themselves?

Can hyper sonic missiles do that which are not nuclear, but conventional weapons?

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/6/7/iran-has-a-hypersonic-missile-what-does-that-mean

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/middleeast/iran-new-hypersonic-missile-mime-intl/index.html
Aircraft carriers don't sail alone; they are accompanied by escort ships which are already equipped with some defenses against hypersonic missiles:

" Aegis ships equipped with the sea-based terminal capability can now engage some hypersonic threats in the latter part of the missile's flight path, called the terminal phase."

And more sophisticated defense systems are on the way:

"In order to expand the battlespace against hypersonic threats, the agency has initiated the Aegis Glide Phase Interceptor program. That program uses proven Aegis weapon system engage-on-remote network sensors to provide the depth of fire needed for terminal defenses, he said."

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3391322/general-says-countering-hypersonic-weapons-is-imperative/

The Navy is on it.

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@no1marauder said
Aircraft carriers don't sail alone; they are accompanied by escort ships which are already equipped with some defenses against hypersonic missiles:

" Aegis ships equipped with the sea-based terminal capability can now engage some hypersonic threats in the latter part of the missile's flight path, called the terminal phase."

And more sophisticated defense systems are ...[text shortened]... icle/Article/3391322/general-says-countering-hypersonic-weapons-is-imperative/

The Navy is on it.
From the link you posted:

"Hypersonic weapons are extremely difficult to detect and counter given the weapons' speed and maneuverability, low flight paths and unpredictable trajectories," he said.

Hypersonic weapons challenge NORAD's ability to provide threat warning and attack assessments for Canada and the United States, he added.

"I believe the greatest risk for the United States stems from our inability to change at the pace required by the changing strategic environment," he said.
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I suspect the Pentagon does not want to admit their aircraft carriers are sitting ducks for hyper sonic missiles. The Pentagon has absolutely no explanation how it can intercept such a fast moving missile. If Russia ever does conclude that WW3 cannot be avoided every single aircraft carrier will be at the bottom of the sea.

The USA's proxy invaded Russian territory. If Russia had a proxy invade the USA in that way what do you think would happen? The US government is flirting with a possible nuclear war because a first strike advantage from Russia is very real. I can only conclude that the western empire thinks it can win a nuclear war and has a bring it on mentality.

The thing about a bullies is that they never stop until you stand up to the a holes.
Hoping the a hole bully will stop bullying is stupid. Iran knows that and so does Russia. The USA is on a dead end road to a bloody nose if they do not stop this crap. You are looking at a serious alliance of Russia, China and Iran against the USA and if NATO nations are stupid enough to defend the bully they will get nuked too.

If you think Russia is not preparing for a nuclear war you are an idiot. The USA keeps escalating this conflict. Russia has concluded that nuclear war is inevitable. Russia cannot win a conventional weapons war and everybody knows it. The USA is pushing Russia into a first strike. There is no advantage to a second strike. Common sense.

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@no1marauder said
Aircraft carriers don't sail alone; they are accompanied by escort ships which are already equipped with some defenses against hypersonic missiles:

" Aegis ships equipped with the sea-based terminal capability can now engage some hypersonic threats in the latter part of the missile's flight path, called the terminal phase."

And more sophisticated defense systems are ...[text shortened]... icle/Article/3391322/general-says-countering-hypersonic-weapons-is-imperative/

The Navy is on it.
Yes, as usual. This info is spot on.

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@Metal-Brain said
From the link you posted:

"Hypersonic weapons are extremely difficult to detect and counter given the weapons' speed and maneuverability, low flight paths and unpredictable trajectories," he said.

Hypersonic weapons challenge NORAD's ability to provide threat warning and attack assessments for Canada and the United States, he added.

"I believe the greatest risk f ...[text shortened]... e USA is pushing Russia into a first strike. There is no advantage to a second strike. Common sense.
And you're living in the past.

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@Metal-Brain said
@sonhouse
Irrelevant. I am only asking if it is possible?

Why did the USA invest so much of their military power into air craft carriers that are so vulnerable to new super sonic missiles? A first strike from Russia can take all of them out. Then what is Biden going to do?
I can see you have no idea how many warheads the Navy can deploy.

Ever hear of MAD?

MAD is real, regardless of who strikes first.

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@Metal-Brain said
From the link you posted:

"Hypersonic weapons are extremely difficult to detect and counter given the weapons' speed and maneuverability, low flight paths and unpredictable trajectories," he said.

Hypersonic weapons challenge NORAD's ability to provide threat warning and attack assessments for Canada and the United States, he added.

"I believe the greatest risk f ...[text shortened]... e USA is pushing Russia into a first strike. There is no advantage to a second strike. Common sense.
As usual, you write like a nut and ignore anything that disproves your point.

The article I gave you showed that there already exist defenses against hypersonic missiles that are deployed on Aegis ships that escort carriers. Naturally, a military man testifying to Congress wanting more funds isn't going to downgrade the threat, but he clearly stated that fact.

Russia lacks the capability to sink all our aircraft carriers and they know it. Besides which even if they could, the US could still destroy their country with ballistic missiles launched from submarines and land.

So no, Putin isn't half as crazy as you are and isn't going to respond to the Ukranian counter attack on Russian soil by starting a nuclear war,

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