@athousandyoung saidBut it changed, so I proved it doesn't matter. Most presidents are the other's lackeys, not real opposition figures.
Medvedev was Putin's lackey, not an opposition figure. In Russia opposition figures end up poisoned to death or locked in prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexei_Navalny
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot
@metal-brain saidIt was called consensus politics. Nobody got everything they wanted, but it does lead to slow positive changes over time.
But it changed, so I proved it doesn't matter. Most presidents are the other's lackeys, not real opposition figures.
Evolution is better than Revolution.
@kevcvs57 saidNo, the plutocrats want the status quo to continue because they got everything they wanted and they want to keep it that way.
It was called consensus politics. Nobody got everything they wanted, but it does lead to slow positive changes over time.
Evolution is better than Revolution.
That is why change is slow.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-americans-now-support-medicare-for-all-and-free-college-tuition.html
https://www.newsweek.com/87-democrats-support-medicare-all-though-joe-biden-doesnt-1522833
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I think it is safe to assume no election fraud was proven in Iraq under Saddam Hussein's brutal rule over a majority Shiite population. I think it is also safe to assume Saddam was a dictator who rigged his elections and was never caught.
The USA never gets caught either. Judges always get paid off to rule against recounts. Isn't that how it works in all rigged elections of the highest political office?
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@metal-brain saidThat's a completely different matter. Saddam was a dictator with absolute power. Unlike Trump, no one could oppose Saddam without the certainty of torture and death.
If widespread election fraud is impossible how did Saddam Hussein always win elections in Iraq?
Trump's claims have been looked at by courts and found to be meritless. That would never happen under Saddam.
@vivify saidThat is ridiculous. Then why would Saddam hold elections? You said yourself that no one could oppose Saddam without the certainty of torture and death.
That's a completely different matter. Saddam was a dictator with absolute power. Unlike Trump, no one could oppose Saddam without the certainty of torture and death.
Trump's claims have been looked at by courts and found to be meritless. That would never happen under Saddam.
Under Saddam it would go to the court just like here in the USA and it would be rejected just like has happened to Trump. Saddam was a dictator, but he was pretending to be democratically elected. That was the whole point of him holding elections. You can't maintain the farce by torturing and killing people who allege election fraud. It would then be obvious. That would defeat the whole purpose of holding elections.
@metal-brain saidFunny, you pretend to not understand that Trump's claim of massive voter fraud is ridiculous, and then you claim to know Saddam Hussein's motivations.
That is ridiculous. Then why would Saddam hold elections? You said yourself that no one could oppose Saddam without the certainty of torture and death.
Under Saddam it would go to the court just like here in the USA and it would be rejected just like has happened to Trump. Saddam was a dictator, but he was pretending to be democratically elected. That was the whole p ...[text shortened]... election fraud. It would then be obvious. That would defeat the whole purpose of holding elections.
@suzianne saidNobody knows how much voter fraud there is. Do you personally know every person in the USA that commits voter fraud? Does Barr or Krebs?
Funny, you pretend to not understand that Trump's claim of massive voter fraud is ridiculous, and then you claim to know Saddam Hussein's motivations.
What is funny is how you pretend to know. You and everybody else have chronic assumption syndrome.
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@metal-brain saidWho knows. Why does North Korea claim to be Democratic? Whatever the reason, it doesn't change that Saddam's a dictator who cruelly murdered and gassed Iraqi citizens.
That is ridiculous. Then why would Saddam hold elections? You said yourself that no one could oppose Saddam without the certainty of torture and death.
Under Saddam it would go to the court just like here in the USA
Don't be dumb. Americans don't live under a dictatorship, at least not yet. Americans don't live in fear of harsh consequences for criticizing Trump, unlike Iraqis and Saddam.
A real trial couldn't exist under Saddam. Not so with Trump. Comparing the U.S. to Iraq as an argument for voter fraud is truly devoid of common sense.
@vivify said"Whatever the reason, it doesn't change that Saddam's a dictator who cruelly murdered and gassed Iraqi citizens."
Who knows. Why does North Korea claim to be Democratic? Whatever the reason, it doesn't change that Saddam's a dictator who cruelly murdered and gassed Iraqi citizens.
Under Saddam it would go to the court just like here in the USA
Don't be dumb. Americans don't live under a dictatorship, at least not yet. Americans don't live in fear of harsh consequences fo ...[text shortened]... h Trump. Comparing the U.S. to Iraq as an argument for voter fraud is truly devoid of common sense.
Yes, and the USA helped him do it.
"Why does North Korea claim to be Democratic?"
To masquerade as a democracy. That is why they all do it.
"Don't be dumb. Americans don't live under a dictatorship, at least not yet."
How do you know? Many Iraqis thought they lived in a democracy when they didn't. The DPRK is the same way. How can you possibly rule out that is happening here as well?
-Removed-That's what I like, the ultimate liar that will STILL call Trump a dictator. Observe what has happened to this "dictator".
1. He lost an election...? Are you fookin NUTS? dictators don't lose elections.
2. He has lost all his decisions in court to help change election results in his favor
- Dictators don't lose court decisions, they DICTATE them.
It's Ok to say Trump is a loser... but you're still a fookin' liar.
Have a nice day, mate.