Originally posted by EladarExcept, as you have pointed out yourself, living together with another person means you have less expenses per person. Meaning that the "extra" money you'd get if you were two single persons would be spent on these extra expenses, so there is no incentive to stay single.
My point is that in your Socialized paradise you make getting married a bad thing. You get punished financially for not simply living together. Single parenting is given incentive and you can get much more money by being seen as two single people.
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Originally posted by BartsYou can live with a person and not be in a relationship with him or her. It is called roommates.
Except, as you have pointed out yourself, living together with another person means you have less expenses per person. Meaning that the "extra" money you'd get if you were two single persons would be spent on these extra expenses, so there is no incentive to stay single.
Two single room mates means you get two incomes. Two room mates who are married equals one income.
Originally posted by EladarNot sure how it's in the Netherlands, but that's certainly not the case in Belgium. If you live together in a single house, you're assumed to be jointly managing your household.
You can live with a person and not be in a relationship with him or her. It is called roommates.
Two single room mates means you get two incomes. Two room mates who are married equals one income.
Originally posted by EladarBut you save a lot of money by living together.
My point is that in your Socialized paradise you make getting married a bad thing. You get punished financially for not simply living together. Single parenting is given incentive and you can get much more money by being seen as two single people.
It rewards people who work the system.
And do you really think that a significant amount of people are single parents intentionally?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraNo you don't save a lot of money by living together, at least not enough to make up for lost government money. Why take a hit in income by getting married, just live together and stay single.
But you save a lot of money by living together.
And do you really think that a significant amount of people are single parents intentionally?
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Originally posted by BartsSo if you live with another person to cut costs you get treated if you are married even if you are not? Even if you just live together to cut costs but live totally different lives and are just splitting costs? What if you have 3 or four people living in the same house?
Not sure how it's in the Netherlands, but that's certainly not the case in Belgium. If you live together in a single house, you're assumed to be jointly managing your household.
Originally posted by EladarFor the purposes of a minimum income ? Yes. If you have multiple persons in a single household living on such an income, they would all get the minimum.
So if you live with another person to cut costs you get treated if you are married even if you are not? Even if you just live together to cut costs but live totally different lives and are just splitting costs? What if you have 3 or four people living in the same house?
Originally posted by EladarYou obviously know a lot about the exact amounts given out by this program and costs of living in Europe that you can make such a definitive statement. Unfortunately, you're wrong. See, in Belgium you get about 790 EUR per month for a single person, 520 for someone living together. Now, unless you can find a decent place to live for less than 270 EUR per month (about the price of a single room in a student house), you're not losing money by living together.
No you don't save a lot of money by living together, at least not enough to make up for lost government money. Why take a hit in income by getting married, just live together and stay single.
Originally posted by BartsSo do get the same amount of money if you are married living together or unmarried living together?
You obviously know a lot about the exact amounts given out by this program and costs of living in Europe that you can make such a definitive statement. Unfortunately, you're wrong. See, in Belgium you get about 790 EUR per month for a single person, 520 for someone living together. Now, unless you can find a decent place to live for less than 270 EUR per month ...[text shortened]... ut the price of a single room in a student house), you're not losing money by living together.
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Originally posted by BartsSorry, but I believe that marriage something more than just jointly managing a household.
I usually don't like "read the thread" answers, but I gave the answer to this question not five posts ago.
Just to make things clear, if 5 people live in the same house they all get the same amount of money as 2, is that right? Each gets the same as if there was just one other roommate.
Originally posted by EladarThat's cool, no one said they were the same, only that for the purpose of this particular program no distinction is made.
Sorry, but I believe that marriage something more than just jointly managing a household.
Just to make things clear, if 5 people live in the same house they all get the same amount of money as 2, is that right? Each gets the same as if there was just one other roommate.
As to your secondd question, yes.
Nice to see that in your country married people get the same amount of money as singles who co-habitate, unlike where Kaz lives. I believe your system is much better. I think all countries should treat everyone equally, no such thing as a marriage disctinction from the government.