Scientists call for new probe into COVID-19 origins: with or without China
SHANGHAI (Reuters) - A joint China-World Health Organization (WHO) study into COVID-19 has provided no credible answers about how the pandemic began, and more rigorous investigations are required - with or without Beijing’s involvement, a group of international scientists and researchers said on Wednesday.
The joint study, released last week, said the likeliest transmission route for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, involved bats and other wildlife in China and southeast Asia. It all but ruled out the possibility it had leaked from a laboratory.
In an open letter, 24 scientists and researchers from Europe, the United States, Australia and Japan said the study was tainted by politics
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who-china/scientists-call-for-new-probe-into-covid-19-origins-with-or-without-china-idUSKBN2BU2J2
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"... tainted by politics" Ah, yes, here we go. WHO is run by Tedros who is owned by China
*that* politics?? I bet :-)
How SARS-Cov-2 may have escaped from a Wuhan lab and why the WHO is finally questioning China's lies
Wednesday, April 07, 2021
Sen. Tom Cotton and then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were smeared as crackpot conspiracy theorists for challenging the dominant narrative that the novel coronavirus had purely zoonotic origins. But now, World Health Organization Director Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has made the stunning concession that, indeed, the question of whether the novel coronavirus actually emerged as a product of a risky gain-of-function experiment still needs investigation.
For the duration of the pandemic, Ghebreyesus has remained Xi Jinping's most loyal bootlicker in the global health establishment. Ghebreyesus, touted as the Chinese Communist Party's candidate of choice to lead the WHO, praised Xi for his "transparency" in handling the pandemic a month after Beijing lied about the virus's human-to-human transmission and allowed 7 million people to fly internationally out of Wuhan. So it came as little surprise that the WHO would allow their "investigation" into the coronavirus's origins consist of 17 Chinese experts and WHO officials approved by the Chinese Community Party.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/how-sars-cov-2-may-have-escaped-from-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology-why-the-who-is-finally-questioning-chinas-lies
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much much more can be said, particularly of a Chinese lab technician that agrees that the virus ha d escaped the Wuhan lab.
Not over yet.
@earl-of-trumps saidYes. The report was tainted by Chinese politics. The report says so, in lesser words, itself.
Scientists call for new probe into COVID-19 origins: with or without China[i]
SHANGHAI (Reuters) - A joint China-World Health Organization (WHO) study into COVID-19 has provided no credible answers about how the pandemic began, and more rigorous investigations are required - with or without Beijing’s involvement, a group of international scientists and resear ...[text shortened]... litics" Ah, yes, here we go. WHO is run by Tedros who is owned by China
*that* politics?? I bet :-)
And the report calls for further research into the origins of the pandemic.
However, this has nothing to do with “the lab” concept. That is all but debunked in the report. The same as the “outside China origin” concept. All but debunked.
The Chinese government’s “arm” is image control. They’re very scared information gets “discovered” about knee-jerk reactions or cultural practices which could reflect badly on them. So, they make every step in the research hard to take.
Most oppressive regimes are like that.
Look at the US. How open armed would they be to an international fact-finding mission about the treatment of prisoners in Guatanamo or something? Would they be willing to release all documentation about decision making, do you think?
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@shavixmir said“ The report was tainted by Chinese politics.”
Yes. The report was tainted by Chinese politics. The report says so, in lesser words, itself.
And the report calls for further research into the origins of the pandemic.
However, this has nothing to do with “the lab” concept. That is all but debunked in the report. The same as the “outside China origin” concept. All but debunked.
The Chinese government’s “arm” is im ...[text shortened]... r something? Would they be willing to release all documentation about decision making, do you think?
“ However, this has nothing to do with “the lab” concept. That is all but debunked in the report.”
are you fuking stupid or what?
@mott-the-hoople saidWhen you talk in the mirror, try not to write at the same time.
“ The report was tainted by Chinese politics.”
“ However, this has nothing to do with “the lab” concept. That is all but debunked in the report.”
are you fuking stupid or what?
And stop trying to form opinions above your pay grade. Which, I presume is snail or runt.
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@shavixmir saidtell me what kind of fuked up thinking says this...
When you talk in the mirror, try not to write at the same time.
And stop trying to form opinions above your pay grade. Which, I presume is snail or runt.
..."Yes. The report was tainted by Chinese politics. The report says so, in lesser words, itself."
and arrives at this...
..."However, this has nothing to do with “the lab” concept. That is all but debunked in the report."
Lunacy at its best.
You said the post is inaccurate because of politics, then go on to say the report "debunked" something. WOW
@mott-the-hoople saidOh dear I think your getting confused about the right wing conspiracy claim that it came from a Chinese lab and the reasonable but still unverified assumption that it came into existence within the geographical borders of China.
tell me what kind of fuked up thinking says this...
..."Yes. The report was tainted by Chinese politics. The report says so, in lesser words, itself."
and arrives at this...
..."However, this has nothing to do with “the lab” concept. That is all but debunked in the report."
Lunacy at its best.
You said the post is inaccurate because of politics, then go on to say the report "debunked" something. WOW
@shavixmir -
Look at the US. How open armed would they be to an international fact-finding mission about the treatment of prisoners in Guatanamo or something? Would they be willing to release all documentation about decision making, do you think?
Don't worry, I know about my America and their foul treatment of humans. The only country that would not agree to ban torture.
Just a reminder here, *nothing* is yet proven to the satisfaction of everyone.
But it is clear from the article that world scientists think so little of the WHO conclusion that
they are asking for another investigation - with or without China, to see if the virus did in fact escape from a lab.
that's is obvious.
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@earl-of-trumps said"The only country that would not agree to ban torture."
@shavixmir -
Look at the US. How open armed would they be to an international fact-finding mission about the treatment of prisoners in Guatanamo or something? Would they be willing to release all documentation about decision making, do you think?
Don't worry, I know about my America and their foul treatment of humans. The only country that would not agree to ban torture.
The only country that didnt lie about the use of torture.
@mott-the-hoople saidNo. Read what I wrote again.
tell me what kind of fuked up thinking says this...
..."Yes. The report was tainted by Chinese politics. The report says so, in lesser words, itself."
and arrives at this...
..."However, this has nothing to do with “the lab” concept. That is all but debunked in the report."
Lunacy at its best.
You said the post is inaccurate because of politics, then go on to say the report "debunked" something. WOW
The post that was quoted here has been removedReally? Was this discredited too?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-now-claims-that-the-coronavirus-pandemic-started-in-a-us-lab/ar-BB1d1D8D
I have always maintained the possibility SARS2 originated in the USA. Duchess is delusional. A lab origin has not been discredited. That is an assumption based on computer simulated genetic sequences we do not know are correct.