"The Supreme Court hears one of the most consequential separation-of-powers cases in American history on Tuesday when it considers President Biden’s unilateral student loan write-off. The question is nothing less than whether the President can steal Congress’s power of the purse and act like a King." WSJ Opinion
Yes, more impt than ANY case. You libs may get what you ask for, a kingdom, a liberal king, a dictator. That would be your logic, your goal.
Uh, USING that logic, would you want a dictator if he were of conservative persuasion? Of course not, so this is an example of an abundance of hypocrisy.
@averagejoe1 saidIt's an example of the right wing WSJ page being full of crap.
"The Supreme Court hears one of the most consequential separation-of-powers cases in American history on Tuesday when it considers President Biden’s unilateral student loan write-off. The question is nothing less than whether the President can steal Congress’s power of the purse and act like a King." WSJ Opinion
Yes, more impt than ANY case. You libs may get what ...[text shortened]... were of conservative persuasion? Of course not, so this is an example of an abundance of hypocrisy.
@averagejoe1 saidThe case is more about whether the SCOTUS by recently concocting a legal theory called the "major questions doctrine" can override express Congressional delegations of authority to the Executive based on nothing more than some judges partisan beliefs that the delegation is too "big" or something.
"The Supreme Court hears one of the most consequential separation-of-powers cases in American history on Tuesday when it considers President Biden’s unilateral student loan write-off. The question is nothing less than whether the President can steal Congress’s power of the purse and act like a King." WSJ Opinion
Yes, more impt than ANY case. You libs may get what ...[text shortened]... were of conservative persuasion? Of course not, so this is an example of an abundance of hypocrisy.
@no1marauder saidPlease elaborate. The article simply says that the court must decide if a president of the United States can now control purse strings, congress be damned.
It's an example of the right wing WSJ page being full of crap.
Marauder, could such a ruling open the door for additional powers given to a president?
@averagejoe1 saidThe article doesn't mention that the 2003 HEROES Act expressly "grants Education Secretary Miguel Cardona the authority to waive or modify student-loan balances in connection with a national emergency like COVID-19" (https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-blocked-supreme-court-arguments-debt-relief-2023-2), does it?
Please elaborate. The article simply says that the court must decide if a president of the United States can now control purse strings, congress be damned.
Marauder, could such a ruling open the door for additional powers given to a president?
@averagejoe1 saidWhy should I answer a question, like soooooooooooooooooooo many other of your questions, based on a totally false premise?
This may be the hardest question I have put to you, to wrangle around segues, and history, and 'what is moral' , fair, all the lib mantras! Go for it!
Or, say you have thought it over, and do not want a president controlling purse strings.
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@no1marauder saidJust like I said. (what did he say ? 🤔)
The case is more about whether the SCOTUS by recently concocting a legal theory called the "major questions doctrine" can override express Congressional delegations of authority to the Executive based on nothing more than some judges partisan beliefs that the delegation is too "big" or something.
So, (I am trying to help you come down from the clouds), would you just ease all of our minds by telling us that this case would rule that a president can not have a power that is presently, last we heard, a power of the congress. Any other ruling would fly in the face of our founders. My face, too. But, apparently, not your face.
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@no1marauder saidAll of us are not sitting on our Lex-nex 24 hours a day, but let us assume that you are saying (never know what you are saying) that there is an Act which makes an exception of issues such as student loan debt, which,, under the Act, can be wiped out by a President.
The article doesn't mention that the 2003 HEROES Act expressly "grants Education Secretary Miguel Cardona the authority to waive or modify student-loan balances in connection with a national emergency like COVID-19" (https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-student-loan-forgiveness-blocked-supreme-court-arguments-debt-relief-2023-2), does it?
If I were president (no jokes about AvJoe as president, please)...(although you don't joke)...If I were president, I could then erase all debt, money owed, to losers and undeserving Americans. Welfare!! Your friends call it pay.
@averagejoe1 saidThere are many laws that delegate certain aspects of Congressional authority to the Executive Branch. If present Congresses don't like those laws now, they can repeal them.
All of us are not sitting on our Lex-nex 24 hours a day, but let us assume that you are saying (never know what you are saying) that there is an Act which makes an exception of issues such as student loan debt, which,, under the Act, can be wiped out by a President.
If I were president (no jokes about AvJoe as president, please)...(although you don't joke)...If I we ...[text shortened]... e all debt, money owed, to losers and undeserving Americans. Welfare!! Your friends call it pay.
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@no1marauder saidSo noted, Marauder evades.
There are many laws that delegate certain aspects of Congressional authority to the Executive Branch. If present Congresses don't like those laws now, they can repeal them.
Were the borrowers affected by emergency or war? That is what qualifies help under your Heroes Act. Naaaa, some of them very successful.
So, you can forget that harebrained idea. You libs can really reach.
So, we can move along. If a law, to you, gives carte blanche to pay money out for any emergency that pops up,,,,,,Marauder, will it ever end for you libs? You find any emergency in any aspect of the lives of dependents. Do even you take care of yourself, practice self-reliance, or do you think about your precious nanny government while having breakfast?
@AverageJoe1. Note how Marauder has succeeded in drawing even AvJOE! off of the issue! Sly fox, he is.
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@averagejoe1 saidWhere am I "evading" the issue, you simpleton? There was a sizable economic downturn during the pandemic which adversely affected most non-billionaires. And the COVID emergency is still in effect. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-extends-covid-19-public-health-emergency-status-cnbc-2023-01-11/
So noted, Marauder evades.
Were the borrowers affected by emergency or war? That is what qualifies help under your Heroes Act. Naaaa, some of them very successful.
So, you can forget that harebrained idea. You libs can really reach.
So, we can move along. If a law, to you, gives carte blanche to pay money out for any emergency that pops up,,,,,,Marauder, ...[text shortened]... practice self-reliance, or do you think about your precious nanny government while having breakfast?
You were told something by right wing media and, as usual, accepted it without a second thought. "Self-reliance" isn't something you do, is it? Those student loan borrowers went out and got themselves an education, something you were too lazy to ever do.
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@no1marauder saidLet’s cut to the chase, and I won’t link!
Where am I "evading" the issue, you simpleton? There was a sizable economic downturn during the pandemic which adversely affected most non-billionaires. And the COVID emergency is still in effect. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-extends-covid-19-public-health-emergency-status-cnbc-2023-01-11/
You were told something by right wing media and, as usual, accepted it w ...[text shortened]... ent loan borrowers went out and got themselves an education, something you were too lazy to ever do.
What would YOU say to SCOTUS to convince them that the person occupying the office of POTUS has a right to tell college grads that they are a relieved from the obligation to re-pay student loans? You would drag your attached-to-your-arm computer into the court and spiel off all the stuff you wrote above. Then, they will look back to the intent of the founders about separation of powers, find your facts of law to be inappropriate in this case of dictatorial action, then move along to the next case.
Oh, God, here comes another link.
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Oh, by the way, you will have to convince them that it is an emergency based on your logic above. There are thousands of people in distress with hourly wage right now, who are going to have their wages reduced when employers can pay the aliens much much less. You see, aliens, have little they can do, and many many cannot speak English . So they will work for a one dollar an hour This is all been created by Biden. But anyway, my point is that that, my friend, is an emergency.
Whatever comes of all the things that you people are doing, it remains that you are all, probably trying to bankrupt the country in one way, or another, or in many ways, so that you can take it all over with the many, many dependents, and rule the entire country.
OH , and Marauder…..,everyone, everyone suffered during the Covid economic downturn. The judges will start yawning on that one.!