@Mott-The-Hoople saidThe problem is haters wanting to define temporary.
What does TPS stand for?
How long is 'temporary'? Just answer the question.
@no1marauder saidSo what part of TEMPORARY do you not understand?
Temporary Protected Status.
Here's the relevant statutory text:
(A)Periodic review
At least 60 days before end of the initial period of designation, and any extended period of designation, of a foreign state (or part thereof) under this section [b]the Attorney General, after consultation with appropriate agencies of the Government, shall review the conditions in th ...[text shortened]... ps://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1254a
at (b)(3)(A)
That's a lot of "shalls" not "cans".
And this is the most important part…
“ (5) Review
(A) Designations
There is no judicial review of any determination of the Attorney General with respect to the designation, or termination or extension of a designation, of a foreign state under this subsection.”
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidSo all those "shalls" mean "if they feel like it"?
So what part of TEMPORARY do you not understand?
And this is the most important part…
“ (5) Review
(A) Designations
There is no judicial review of any determination of the Attorney General with respect to the designation, or termination or extension of a designation, of a foreign state under this subsection.”
Alito changed the meaning of "determination" to mean not only the "individual decision" BUT "“the chain of events leading up to a decision.” This renders the requirement of meaningful consultation with other agencies as mere surplusage.
@no1marauder said😂 no one changed anything except for liberals trying to change temporary to permanent
So all those "shalls" mean "if they feel like it"?
Alito changed the meaning of "determination" to mean not only the "individual decision" BUT "“the chain of events leading up to a decision.” This renders the requirement of meaningful consultation with other agencies as mere surplusage.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou obviously didn't even look at the decision.
😂 no one changed anything except for liberals trying to change temporary to permanent
No one made the ridiculous claim you invented. But to terminate a TPS designation, certain procedural steps are supposed to be followed according to the law (at least the way Congress wrote it).
Alito took an eraser to it though.
@no1marauder saidShow me where it says a liberal fed judge has a say in this.
You obviously didn't even look at the decision.
No one made the ridiculous claim you invented. But to terminate a TPS designation, certain procedural steps are supposed to be followed according to the law (at least the way Congress wrote it).
Alito took an eraser to it though.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidWho determines if the Executive Branch is obeying the laws Congress passes?
Show me where it says a liberal fed judge has a say in this.
Do you really need a course in Poly Sci 101?
@no1marauder saidThis is what congress wrote…
Who determines if the Executive Branch is obeying the laws Congress passes?
Do you really need a course in Poly Sci 101?
““ (5) Review
(A) Designations
There is no judicial review of any determination of the Attorney General with respect to the designation, or termination or extension of a designation, of a foreign state under this subsection.””
Do you need help understanding that?
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidSo what? Judges are supposed to read a law in its entirety and passages in context, not feign one sentence overrides every other provision.
This is what congress wrote…
““ (5) Review
(A) Designations
There is no judicial review of any determination of the Attorney General with respect to the designation, or termination or extension of a designation, of a foreign state under this subsection.””
Do you need help understanding that?
When a law says the Executive Branch "shall" do something, that means they have to. The next paragraph doesn't wipe that clean as the right wingers pretended here.
And it just makes sense; the AG doesn't have any special knowledge of conditions in other countries, while other departments do. That Congress would give the AG carte blanche authority without any meaningful input is contrary to common sense and the intent of the law.
@AverageJoe1 saidSo America should just stop trying? How does a shining city on a hill stay shining? By giving up? With great awesome power comes great awesome responsibility. While the USA was a beacon of light for freedom and democracy the world was more than happy for it to increase its power. But without that veneer of civility and leadership it devolves into a crass gimme all the stuff sand pit bully. Is that what you really want?
Bring Korean citizens here too? It only seems fair?
Do you realize that we cannot heal the world?
You are a small thinker in such matters. They have been here for 15 years.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidIs it one millisecond? Is it five million years?
It is unbelievable the word “temporary” needs to be explained to you! Imbecile thinking
Tell us EXACTLY how long is 'temporary'?
You obviously think it's not as long as has already elapsed.
How long, exactly, is temporary?
Again, just answer the question. Don't grandstand.
@no1marauder saidSo what are they supposed to do when they come to this part?
So what? Judges are supposed to read a law in its entirety and passages in context, not feign one sentence overrides every other provision.
When a law says the Executive Branch "shall" do something, that means they have to. The next paragraph doesn't wipe that clean as the right wingers pretended here.
And it just makes sense; the AG doesn't have any special knowled ...[text shortened]... lanche authority without any meaningful input is contrary to common sense and the intent of the law.
“There is no judicial review of any determination of the Attorney General with respect to the designation, or termination or extension of a designation, of a foreign state under this subsection”
[b]are they supposed to keep reviewing, or call the dogs in?
@Suzianne saidAre you for real? Temporary isn't measured by the calendar; it's measured by whether the emergency still exists. If the emergency is over, temporary should remain temporary.. Go back.
The problem is haters wanting to define temporary.
How long is 'temporary'? Just answer the question.
Put another way, if temporary last forever, which you seem to think it should, temporary is defined as long enough to solve the emergency that justified it. Stay with me here....... It is not long enough to become permanent by inertia. You probably should look up inertia.
But dont stop here.....tell us your endgame........make it Permanent ?!?!?!?!??? Would that be faaaaaaiiiirrr? There really are other wretches in the world, you know. You pickin and choosin are you??