@AverageJoe1 saidIf you're speaking of this case: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf
The President can hardly have his hands tied when protecting our country.
Is there anyone here who thinks that he should not be able to protect our country?
It's an unanimous rebuke of the Trump administration's forced deportations to the Salvadoran prison with no due process given those so treated:
From the per curiam opinion:
"For all the rhetoric of the dissents, today’s order and per
curiam confirm that the detainees subject to removal orders
under the AEA are entitled to notice and an opportunity to
challenge their removal. The only question is which court
will resolve that challenge."
From Justice Kavanaugh's concurrence (the deciding vote that the cases must be brought where the persons affected are detained):
"Importantly,
as the Court stresses, the Court’s disagreement with the
dissenters is not over whether the detainees receive judicial
review of their transfers—all nine Members of the Court
agree that judicial review is available."
Of course, no such notice or hearing was given those sent to the El Salvadoran prison, so the SCOTUS agrees, with no dissents, that the Administration violated the Due Process rights of these persons.
And in 1776, we decided to throw out a King who gave himself the power to "protect us"; free people do not need tyrants to do so.
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@no1marauder saidA thoughtful post, but when USA citizens , who have rights which you refer to, have to give the SAME rights to illegal immigrants,(people who crashed in and who are not supposed to be here) my conservatism, for lack of a better word, kicks in.
If you're speaking of this case: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf
It's an unanimous rebuke of the Trump administration's forced deportations to the Salvadoran prison with no due process given those so treated:
From the per curiam opinion:
"For all the rhetoric of the dissents, today’s order and per
curiam confirm that the detai ...[text shortened]... row out a King who gave himself the power to "protect us"; free people do not need tyrants to do so.
A person illegally enters my property, my driveway, sidewalk and home, who is a person who has no right to be there.......
I call the police, and I , fee simple owner, demand he be removed.
The alien has a lawyer friend in his hovel, who rushes over and tells the police that he has a right to be heard and you cannot remove him.
You may find this silly, but I don't. Tell me, given your logic, if you were one of the legislators who supported the very law pertaining to this situation, what would that law be, and how could it have been cooked up by you and the legislator??
Of course, the alien would be allowed to remain in this man's home, like the immigrants who are allowed to remain in the USA, while he waits for a judge.
Do you see it now? There is no difference.
@AverageJoe1 saidThere bloody well IS a difference.
A thoughtful post, but when USA citizens , who have rights which you refer to, have to give the SAME rights to illegal immigrants,(people who crashed in and who are not supposed to be here) my conservatism, for lack of a better word, kicks in.
A person illegally enters my property, my driveway, sidewalk and home, who is a person who has no right to be there.......
...[text shortened]... wed to remain in the USA, while he waits for a judge.
Do you see it now? There is no difference.
Now we find out those supposed gang members, EIGHTY PERCENT were NOT gang members and never even got the CHANCE to prove innocence just shipped off the a gulag JUST LIKE PUTIN.
@sonhouse saidYou avoid my point? You change it!!?!?? People break into the house. I said nothing about gang members or innocence.
There bloody well IS a difference.
Now we find out those supposed gang members, EIGHTY PERCENT were NOT gang members and never even got the CHANCE to prove innocence just shipped off the a gulag JUST LIKE PUTIN.
They are illegally there.
Geez Sonhouse, you become tiresome. Uhhh, no passports. Illegal. Next you will say, well, they only stole $2.
@no1marauder saidSome of the activities of M13... looks like you are true to form, in your support for crooks and terrorists.
If you're speaking of this case: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a931_2c83.pdf
It's an unanimous rebuke of the Trump administration's forced deportations to the Salvadoran prison with no due process given those so treated:
From the per curiam opinion:
"For all the rhetoric of the dissents, today’s order and per
curiam confirm that the detai ...[text shortened]... row out a King who gave himself the power to "protect us"; free people do not need tyrants to do so.
Criminal acts of the M13 gang
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@AverageJoe1 saidAnd here I had imagined you always have a pocket Constitution and a copy of The Federalist Papers on your person at all times. 🙄
The President can hardly have his hands tied when protecting our country.
Is there anyone here who thinks that he should not be able to protect our country?
@Rajk999 saidMarauder the Bot. He does not care
Some of the activities of M13... looks like you are true to form, in your support for crooks and terrorists.
Criminal acts of the M13 gang
Pro Search
The MS-13 gang (Mara Salvatrucha 13) is infamous for its involvement in a wide range of violent and criminal activities. Below are some of the key criminal acts associated with MS-13:
Criminal Activities
Homicide and V ...[text shortened]... angs stems from its willingness to use extreme violence and its widespread criminal enterprises.
@AverageJoe1 saidNo. His job is to protect all our rights equally. 😆
The President can hardly have his hands tied when protecting our country.
Is there anyone here who thinks that he should not be able to protect our country?
'The country' is a lot of things - a landmass, people, trees, rocks, gas stations, churches, bottles of liquor, bank accounts, cell phone chargers, etc.
Trump's job is NOT "protecting the country." Nossir. Not at all. This just shows you have NO idea what government is for.
Trump is our employee. He was hired to do a job for us - protect all our individual rights, equally, for all of us.
He is nothing more than a servant. He should be doing our bidding. Of course, he is really bad at his job and should be whipped soundly and turned out of office. 😆
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@spruce112358 saidFool. Everyone is amazed that he is simply fulfilling campaign promises. 70M people ‘hired’ this employee to do exactly what he is doing. Look the promises up. What a joke y’all are. Wildgrass will prob take to his bed when he pulls off the tariffs. And, you know he will. I am ecstatic.
No. His job is to protect all our rights equally. 😆
'The country' is a lot of things - a landmass, people, trees, rocks, gas stations, churches, bottles of liquor, bank accounts, cell phone chargers, etc.
Trump's job is NOT "protecting the country." Nossir. Not at all. This just shows you have NO idea what government is for.
Trump is our employee. He was hired t ...[text shortened]... ng. Of course, he is really bad at his job and should be whipped soundly and turned out of office. 😆
We wanted each thing he is doing. Like, ridding our country of invaders,,,,protecting us. From Biden’s invaders. Do you get it? Biden invites invaders, Trump drives them away, like John Wayne. Which of the two are our protectors ? Conflicted minds abound.
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@Rajk999 saidAnd you are consistent in your total disregard for human rights.
Some of the activities of M13... looks like you are true to form, in your support for crooks and terrorists.
Criminal acts of the M13 gang
Pro Search
The MS-13 gang (Mara Salvatrucha 13) is infamous for its involvement in a wide range of violent and criminal activities. Below are some of the key criminal acts associated with MS-13:
Criminal Activities
Homicide and V ...[text shortened]... angs stems from its willingness to use extreme violence and its widespread criminal enterprises.
We have a procedure for criminals in the US; arrest them, charge them with crimes and if they are convicted, punish them. Trump wants to skip over everything but the "arrest" part (which he refuses even to present evidence establishing probable cause supporting such government action to a magistrate) but you might want to study this:
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Perhaps you are willing to accept a politician's word that someone is a criminal and thus should be locked up indefinitely without any sort of actual legal process, but the nation rejected such a tyranny long ago (though we have, unfortunately, occasionally back slid).
@no1marauder saidRajk, weigh all of his not-reasoning as if he is a guy who promotes men getting into venues where women compete with each other. That is what we deal with.
And you are consistent in your total disregard for human rights.
We have a procedure for criminals in the US; arrest them, charge them with crimes and if they are convicted, punish them. Trump wants to skip over everything but the "arrest" part (which he refuses even to present evidence establishing probable cause supporting such government action to a magistrate) but ...[text shortened]... e process of law[/b]; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
@AverageJoe1 saidKeeping the "legend" alive.
Fool. Everyone is amazed that he is simply fulfilling campaign promises. 70M people ‘hired’ this employee to do exactly what he is doing. Look the promises up. What a joke y’all are. Wildgrass will prob take to his bed when he pulls off the tariffs. And, you know he will. I am ecstatic.
We wanted each thing he is doing. Like, ridding our country of invaders,,,,pro ...[text shortened]... drives them away, like John Wayne. Which of the two are our protectors ? Conflicted minds abound.
You do know Trump lies, right?
He lies because he doesn't understand anything.
Kinda like you.