@Sleepyguy saidOf course not, but I would go on record expressing my disappointment in a nation of people too spoiled by our success to not mind electing a tyrant who will roll back our liberties (unless you're rich). Are you rich?
Ah, OK. So he would be a legitimately elected President of our Democratic Republic, and you would not be in support of, say, destructive riots, setting things on fire, or an armed revolt?
@Suzianne saidI'm glad to hear you wouldn't support violence. It would be nice to believe that view extends to all on both sides, but we shall see. Of course we disagree so profoundly about what is really happening in this country there is no point trying to persuade one another. And no, I'm not rich.
Of course not, but I would go on record expressing my disappointment in a nation of people too spoiled by our success to not mind electing a tyrant who will roll back our liberties (unless you're rich). Are you rich?
Being a Canadian I don't understand after the first 4 years of Donald Trump Americans would want another 4 years of him. I know a car plant had to close down in the states because he quit trade with Canada and they needed parts from Canada, he didn't realize how closely our trade is and effect one another. We ended up with a bunch of people being laid off but the Plant didn't close. The economy was good when he came into office as Obama had left him a good economy, had nothing to do with him. I believe him when he says on day one he would be a Dictator, and I do believe he would go after everyone who he thinks are out to get him. He has already stated one of the first things he would do is FIRE the Prosecutor who has the charges against him. One reason he wants the Presidency is to keep his sorry ass out of jail PERIOD!!! He cares about Donald Trump and no one else. Calls people names who are much smarter than he is, hell he has been bankrupt 6 times that we know of, how is someone like that going to fix the economy? He has also stated he would let Russia do what ever the Hell they wanted to do in Ukraine. All his rally's are is ranting about his Political enemy's. I find it sad almost half if not half of Americans believe all his lies.
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@Very-Rusty saidwhy are you lying about GM?
Being a Canadian I don't understand after the first 4 years of Donald Trump Americans would want another 4 years of him. I know a car plant had to close down in the states because he quit trade with Canada and they needed parts from Canada, he didn't realize how closely our trade is and effect one another. We ended up with a bunch of people being laid off but the Plant did ...[text shortened]... Political enemy's. I find it sad almost half if not half of Americans believe all his lies.
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidREMINDER: A Michigan Auto Plant Closed on Trump’s Watch – After He Promised Michigan Workers They Wouldn’t “Lose One Plant”
why are you lying about GM?
Donald Trump is traveling to Warren this evening, where he will undoubtedly spread his typical falsehoods about his record on auto manufacturing. Michigan workers know the truth, however, after living through the consequences of his disastrous actions. Hundreds of auto workers lost their jobs after a GM plant closed on Trump’s watch, all after Trump promised them that there would be no plant closures during his presidency.
“Donald Trump broke his promises to Michigan auto workers time and time again. He told them that they wouldn’t ‘lose one plant,’ then turned his back on hundreds of workers as they lost their jobs. Trump left Michigan’s auto industry flailing, and there’s no doubt he’ll do it again,” said DNC Spokesperson Stephanie Justice. “The Biden-Harris administration cleaned up Trump’s mess, and Michiganders know they can’t allow Trump to leave them behind again. They’ll elect Vice President Kamala Harris and Governor Tim Walz in November so that they can continue to invest in Michigan manufacturing and uplift workers across the state.”
Time and time again, Trump promised auto workers in Michigan that he would bring back their jobs and open new plants – but the state’s auto industry instead bled jobs, and one plant closed altogether under his watch.
Detroit Free Press: “‘We brought you a lot of car plants, we brought you a lot … and we’re going to bring you a lot more,’ Trump began his speech at MBS International Airport in Freeland.”
FactCheck: “As of August, those [motor vehicle and parts manufacturing] Michigan jobs stood at 155,800, down 18,400 from the month Trump was inaugurated.”
CNN: “General Motors’ 78-year-old transmission plant in Warren, Michigan is halting production this week.”
Trump constantly antagonized auto workers and their unions, despite the key role they play in creating good-paying jobs for Michigan families.
Washington Post: “‘You could have let [Detroit’s auto industry] go, and rebuilt itself, through the free enterprise system,’ said Trump. ‘You could have let it go bankrupt, frankly, and rebuilt itself, and a lot of people felt it should happen.’”
The Detroit News: “Trump suggests moving some car production from Michigan”
The Detroit News: “He told The News on Wednesday that GM and Chrysler could have been saved without government bailouts. ‘I think it would have worked out the other way, too’, Trump said. ‘It would have been a free-market deal.’”
Trump: “If the union bosses and the CEOs refuse to fight back against Crooked Joe Biden by forcing him to repeal this disastrous electric car scheme, then you will know they’re not pro-worker, they’re not on your side. They’ve got some deals going for themselves. And I’m telling you, you shouldn’t pay those dues.”
Trump incentivized companies to ship jobs overseas – leaving Michiganders behind.
Bloomberg: “The Offshoring of U.S. Jobs Increased on Trump’s Watch”
Reuters: “How offshoring rolled along under Trump, who vowed to stop it”
“Donald Trump won the U.S. presidency four years ago, in part, by a promise to Midwest factory workers that he would stop companies like Schneider Electric SE from moving jobs out of the country. He didn’t stop them.”
The Guardian: “’He pulled the wool over our eyes’: workers blame Trump for moving jobs overseas”
“Promises to save US manufacturing and prevent American jobs moving abroad were a key part of Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign. But since Trump took office in January 2017, nearly 200,000 jobs have been moved overseas, based on Trade Adjustment Assistance certified petitions.
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@Very-Rusty saidev mandates closed those plants
REMINDER: A Michigan Auto Plant Closed on Trump’s Watch – After He Promised Michigan Workers They Wouldn’t “Lose One Plant”
Donald Trump is traveling to Warren this evening, where he will undoubtedly spread his typical falsehoods about his record on auto manufacturing. Michigan workers know the truth, however, after living through the consequences of his disastrous ac ...[text shortened]... ,000 jobs have been moved overseas, based on Trade Adjustment Assistance certified petitions.
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https://nypost.com/2024/09/17/us-news/michigan-union-members-blame-biden-electric-vehicle-mandates-for-auto-industry-layoffs/
@Mott-The-Hoople saidOh, a Trumper not even knowing what liberties they have now, nor what liberties they are going to lose under a retributive Trump presidency. Who'da guessed?
what “liberties” do you refer to?
Only everybody. The rights of Americans are rare in today's world, as one can see by looking at the globe as a whole. That you will lose them and that doesn't even occur to you, after all of Trump's promises to jail everyone who is charged by the US Constitution to put him in jail where he belongs. An autocratic demagogue is the man you worship. You think you are immune to his unreasoning anger over people treating him as he should be treated? You think that you are safe by genuflecting before him, debasing yourself for his pleasure? What the hell is wrong with you people?
@Mott-The-Hoople
You would know which liberties would be gone under Trump if you ever dared to read the project 2025 manifest. Like the use of military to quell protests, like making abortion illegal in all 50 states, putting women in jail for having an abortion for no reason.
Tracking pregnant women, spying on them.
The liberty to work here in the US with a green card, Trump WILL deport MILLIONS and he doesn't give a rats ass about the loss of workers for those jobs and there are not enough workers to fill the jobs Trump's deportation will cause.
Or killing the department of education, or pulling out of NATO, or weaponizing DOJ to make that office his personal attack dog to arrest anyone he considers an enemy.
The list goes on and on but you are too stupid to understand the implications of just how radicalized Trump has become.
I will be a dictator on day one only.
I will be YOUR retribution. Right, like he is worried about retribution on anyone but Trump.
I want my generals to be more like HITLER'S general, LOYAL to ME.
And MUCH worse. His economy will tank in two years if he by some freak of nature gets elected again.
The loss of jobs where the company hiring the immigrants will greatly affect our economy because those jobs will go unfilled and so the market for the goods produced will falter and the tariffs he will install will be the straw that broke the camel's back. we may be in a recession by 2026 and OF COURSE Trump will NEVER take responsibility for ANYTHING he does.
He never has and never will take responsibility for anything like his 6 bankruptcies, where he couldn't even keep a CASION in the black. So much for being a business genius.
Mark my words, right now our economy is LITERALLY the envy of the world, where China was supposed to surpass our GNP by now but THEY have tanked, now under 20 trillion while ours is pushing towards THIRTY trillion.
But Trump will see to it China DOES overtake us in GDP before he is out of office, that is if he hasn't LITERALLY installed himself as a dictator.
@Suzianne saidThat is exactly what Trump said:
No way. He never said he would put tariffs on "those who drop the dollar". Stop misrepresenting him as some "do-gooder". To him, tariffs are only his retribution on other countries. To us, it is an outrageous tax hike, except the money goes to foreign companies. Traitor Trump is throwing Americans under the bus with these punitive tariffs, and doesn't even give a damn.
And I'm not gonna watch your stupid girlfriend.
https://odysee.com/@KimIversen:d/trump-to-slap-100-tariffs-on-countries:f
And he contradicted himself. If a country sells to the USA guess what currency they get paid with. Only one. Essentially what Trump said is if a country drops the dollar he will punish them if they pick up the dollar again.
A country cannot accept dollars and drop the dollar at the same time. Only countries that do not sell to the USA can drop the dollar. Selling to the USA is accepting the US dollar. Learn some economics.
@Metal-Brain saidWhat don't you get about "Trump lies"?
That is exactly what Trump said:
https://odysee.com/@KimIversen:d/trump-to-slap-100-tariffs-on-countries:f
And he contradicted himself. If a country sells to the USA guess what currency they get paid with. Only one. Essentially what Trump said is if a country drops the dollar he will punish them if they pick up the dollar again.
A country cannot accept dollars a ...[text shortened]... to the USA can drop the dollar. Selling to the USA is accepting the US dollar. Learn some economics.