@shavixmir saidThe kid was caught (and admitted to) cheating twice before, most recently three years ago when he was 16, and he was banned back then because of it.
Glad you think of me!
But what a strange story.
The more I looked into it, the less likely it looked that the kid cheated, but more like he just got lucky.
Butt, (I couldn’t resist) there must be something else going on for the kid to get banned without any form of proof. Surely?
This is combined with the fact the kid jumped from a 2400 rated player to 2700 in the span of one year....which as Hikaru Nakamura pointed out, would be "the most meteoric rise in chess history". The moment he reached 2700 was the game he beat Magnus.
But here's the kicker: Niemann claimed he thoroughly prepared for Magnus...by studying lines Magnus never played in his entire chess career.
While none of this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the kid cheated, there are too many "coincidences" lining up for some people.
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@vivify saidSure. Possible. But surely before being banned for cheating you need hard proof?
The kid was caught (and admitted to) cheating twice before, most recently three years ago when he was 16, and he was banned back then because of it.
This is combined with the fact the kid jumped from a 2400 rated player to 2700 in the span of one year....which as Hikaru Nakamura pointed out, would be "the most meteoric rise in chess history".
But here's the kicker: Nie ...[text shortened]... nd a shadow of a doubt the kid cheated, there are too many "coincidences" lining up for some people.
Carlson could have had an off day.
@shavixmir saidPossibly....but Magnus won 53 games in a row before that loss. And it was his first time losing against black pieces in 2 years.
Sure. Possible. But surely before being banned for cheating you need hard proof?
Carlson could have had an off day.
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15 Sep 22
@shavixmir saidyou are the man for the job, you display the qualifications daily
Who the hell is alerting these posts?
Good grief.
They searched the kid and found nothing. One can only imagine the next search he’s gonna have to go through.
@mott-the-hoople saidYou’re offering me the job of shagging your mother?
oh you already have the job, no more auditioning is necessary
God damn, you’re a skank.
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@shavixmir saidYes: Carlsen owns shares in chess.com, and needs to protect his assets. It's really very tawdry,
Glad you think of me!
But what a strange story.
The more I looked into it, the less likely it looked that the kid cheated, but more like he just got lucky.
Butt, (I couldn’t resist) there must be something else going on for the kid to get banned without any form of proof. Surely?
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17 Sep 22
@vivify saidAll of that is either false, or distorted.
The kid was caught (and admitted to) cheating twice before, most recently three years ago when he was 16, and he was banned back then because of it.
This is combined with the fact the kid jumped from a 2400 rated player to 2700 in the span of one year....which as Hikaru Nakamura pointed out, would be "the most meteoric rise in chess history". The moment he reached 2700 was ...[text shortened]... nd a shadow of a doubt the kid cheated, there are too many "coincidences" lining up for some people.
He cheated on-line. He claims never to have cheated OTB, and there is no evidence - none at all - that he did. Cheating OTB is rather harder than on-line, too.
Nobody except sourpusses like Nakamura - who himself is apparently not squeaky clean on-line - denies that his play during his rise was of the level that would warrant such a rise. Are you suggesting he cheated all that time? Or did he legitimately rise to 2700, and then suddenly became simultaneously too stupid to play at a 2700-level when he came up against Carlsen and intelligent enough to come up with a method of cheating undetectable by anyone except Carlsen's supernatural intuition? Come off it!
As for the line he studied: turns out Magnus did play it before. All Niemann did was mistake the game he did it in.
Carlsen had a serious off-day, is now having a volcanic tiff about it, and is sacrificing Niemann for his own ego. This is Lance Armstrong-level @*#&-holery of Carlsen. I support his decision not to want as much chess stress in his life, but not his destroying a young colleague's career in the process.
@shallow-blue saidNiemann was still in the 2600s prior to playing Carlsen and had never been 2700 until winning that game. So the lowest ranked player of the tournament, a 2600 player, beat the highest ranked, arguably greatest player of all time, rated around 2865.
All of that is either false, or distorted.
He cheated on-line. He claims never to have cheated OTB, and there is no evidence - none at all - that he did. Cheating OTB is rather harder than on-line, too.
Nobody except sourpusses like Nakamura - who himself is apparently not squeaky clean on-line - denies that his play during his rise was of the level that would warr ...[text shortened]... as much chess stress in his life, but not his destroying a young colleague's career in the process.
I'm not saying Niemann cheated, I'm simply pointing out why people believe he may have.
And Nakamura was the one who said that line was never played by Magnus after searching a chess database.
