@AverageJoe1 saidlol i had a witty remark lined up based on the title how it's funny unrealized capital gains are fictional, non existent money when it comes to taxes but they suddenly become real when you want to get loans.
Do y'all even know what that is?
Do y'all know that Trump, who has bad breath and hates children dogs and nuns, just got back from a Crypto meeting? Does K know what Crypto is? Can Suzianne explain it, to all of our members who do not know what it is? And while at it, what unrealized capital gains is? If she will do it, I will swear to not say Kamal anymore.
Iwill ...[text shortened]... ollars to anti-American groups donating to her. Shouldn't that be illegal? Corruption, is it not?
but you're just drunkenly rambling as usual about 10 different things
sooo... why the fuk even bother
@Zahlanzi saidIf $1M grows to a value of $1.3m in one year, it is a .3 gain. If I don’t realize (cash to my pocket), then I have not realized it.
lol i had a witty remark lined up based on the title how it's funny unrealized capital gains are fictional, non existent money when it comes to taxes but they suddenly become real when you want to get loans.
but you're just drunkenly rambling as usual about 10 different things
sooo... why the fuk even bother
But if I google my account, I will see it sitting there, unrealized. Not fiction to me, as I know it is non-fiction, a way to realize a new small yacht. 🛥️
@AverageJoe1
So he lets that grow at 30% a year and gets to 1 billion dollars value so he should not be taxed on the fact he is now worth 1 billion.
@sonhouse saidThat is correct.
@AverageJoe1
So he lets that grow at 30% a year and gets to 1 billion dollars value so he should not be taxed on the fact he is now worth 1 billion.
@sonhouse saidBeing worth 1 billion and having 1 billion is not the same thing. When the billion is realized then it can be taxed.
@AverageJoe1
So he lets that grow at 30% a year and gets to 1 billion dollars value so he should not be taxed on the fact he is now worth 1 billion.
Do you want the IRS taxing money you don't have, just because they think you will have it?
So what's next? Should the IRS be able to tax you twice, first on unrealized gain and then again on actual (realized) gain?
@Phranny saidDistributions from IRAs don't get favorable capital gains treatment but are taxed at ordinary income rates.
@no1marauder
Taxing unrealized capital gains would be a disaster for ordinary Americans trying to save for retirement through 401K's and independent portfolios, depending on how it would work. Currently, there is no capital gains tax on Roth and Traditional IRA's. I hope that would not go away. Capital gains taxes are only paid on non retirement accounts when you withdraw mo ...[text shortened]... appropriately taxed. They made their money due to the infrastructure the rest of us built for them.
Anyway, the Biden administration proposal would only apply to those with assets over $100 million who I doubt on relying on IRAs for their retirement.
@sonhouse saidUntil something is sold “the value is in the eyes of the beholder!” Who says what you own is worth X amount, the one demanding you pay taxes?
@AverageJoe1
So he lets that grow at 30% a year and gets to 1 billion dollars value so he should not be taxed on the fact he is now worth 1 billion.
@Kilroy70 saidThis is medieval economic thinking. What is the difference in the modern economy between a piece of paper that says $100 or a different piece of paper which says "stock" but is both easily transferred and able to be used as collateral for loans? None really and even most personal worth in "money" only exists as marks in a computer.
Being worth 1 billion and having 1 billion is not the same thing. When the billion is realized then it can be taxed.
Do you want the IRS taxing money you don't have, just because they think you will have it?
So what's next? Should the IRS be able to tax you twice, first on unrealized gain and then again on actual (realized) gain?
Get real, guys.
@AverageJoe1 saidyet you can take loans against it. interest free loans. you can use that to buy more stock.
If $1M grows to a value of $1.3m in one year, it is a .3 gain. If I don’t realize (cash to my pocket), then I have not realized it.
But if I google my account, I will see it sitting there, unrealized. Not fiction to me, as I know it is non-fiction, a way to realize a new small yacht. 🛥️
funny how someone who technically has no money to tax keeps increasing their wealth.
@AverageJoe1 said@AJoe1,
You fretting over a name? Fret over a REAL problem, have you seen what your buddy Marauder has in store when Kamal-a makes him her Economic Czar?
Try showing a little respect for the Vice President of the United States, probably you have little respect for anything if one wants to read between the lines.
-VR
@no1marauder saidWithdrawals from Traditional IRA's get taxed as income. Withdrawals from Roth IRA's are not taxed at all. Both avoid capital gains taxes.
Distributions from IRAs don't get favorable capital gains treatment but are taxed at ordinary income rates.
Anyway, the Biden administration proposal would only apply to those with assets over $100 million who I doubt on relying on IRAs for their retirement.