Biden announced he'd withdraw troops from Iraq:
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/us-combat-forces-to-leave-iraq-by-end-of-year-biden
Given the circumstances in Afghanistan, this would be a mistake. Unlike Afghanistan, at least Iraq finally became stable. The situation in Afghanistan may have emboldened any remaining ISIS members to plot another takeover of Iraq.
Biden better slow his roll on this one.
@vivify saidHow bout from Japan, Germany et al
Biden announced he'd withdraw troops from Iraq:
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/us-combat-forces-to-leave-iraq-by-end-of-year-biden
Given the circumstances in Afghanistan, this would be a mistake. Unlike Afghanistan, at least Iraq finally became stable. The situation in Afghanistan may have emboldened any remaining ISIS members to plot another takeover of Iraq.
Biden better slow his roll on this one.
@vivify saidWithdraw. Stop meddling in the affairs of people.
Biden announced he'd withdraw troops from Iraq:
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/us-combat-forces-to-leave-iraq-by-end-of-year-biden
Given the circumstances in Afghanistan, this would be a mistake. Unlike Afghanistan, at least Iraq finally became stable. The situation in Afghanistan may have emboldened any remaining ISIS members to plot another takeover of Iraq.
Biden better slow his roll on this one.
@vivify saidBiden better slow his roll on this one.
Biden announced he'd withdraw troops from Iraq:
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/us-combat-forces-to-leave-iraq-by-end-of-year-biden
Given the circumstances in Afghanistan, this would be a mistake. Unlike Afghanistan, at least Iraq finally became stable. The situation in Afghanistan may have emboldened any remaining ISIS members to plot another takeover of Iraq.
Biden better slow his roll on this one.
Before we start playing "armchair generals" here, let's remember most of us don't have all the facts. The US is capable of attacking most Taliban position from the air and sea should the orders be given, and people are still being evacuated at this time.
So, let's not try to 2nd guess what Biden "better" do.
@mchill saidI've been saying that since I joined the Forum. We have no crystal ball, and we are not 'in the room'.
Biden better slow his roll on this one.
Before we start playing "armchair generals" here, let's remember most of us don't have all the facts. The US is capable of attacking most Taliban position from the air and sea should the orders be given, and people are still being evacuated at this time.
So, let's not try to 2nd guess what Biden "better" do.
For all we know, the helicopoters and hum-vees we left behind are wired with bugs, etc, to keep up with these savages. So, they were left behind on purpose.
@vivify saidYes, the more we see in the lives of these savages, the more I see what trump means when he says, with no apologies, bomb hell out of them. We better. No sense chatting about collateral damage in a war torn country, it is what it is, it is what they are used to. Citizens can dig bomb shelters and wait it out.
@averagejoe1 saidI see what trump means when he says, with no apologies, bomb hell out of them.
Yes, the more we see in the lives of these savages, the more I see what trump means when he says, with no apologies, bomb hell out of them. We better. No sense chatting about collateral damage in a war torn country, it is what it is, it is what they are used to. Citizens can dig bomb shelters and wait it out.
Good plan - Just like our "Shock and Awe" bombing campaign in Iraq? All that did was blow up more civilians as it did the enemy, destroy lots of infrastructure, drain our arms resources, and make us even more hated than before. Using a 10 pound sledge hammer to kill mosquitos is not always the best course of action.
P.S. Lost in your little posts are the fact that Republican George W Bush got us into this mess under the guise of Killing Osama Bin Laden, and it was Obama that actually did the job! 😏
@mchill saidWhy don't you start a thread on Bush? Geez
I see what trump means when he says, with no apologies, bomb hell out of them.
Good plan - Just like our "Shock and Awe" bombing campaign in Iraq? All that did was blow up more civilians as it did the enemy, destroy lots of infrastructure, drain our arms resources, and make us even more hated than before. Using a 10 pound sledge hammer to kill mosquitos is not always the b ...[text shortened]... this mess under the guise of Killing Osama Bin Laden, and it was Obama that actually did the job! 😏
SO, shock and awe. Are you suggesting that since you were not happy with those results, that we do NOTHING?
Hey did you see where Tlaalib is raking in rental money?? I do too, but I didn't sponsor a Cancel Rent bill!!!! HAHAHAHAHHA, Do you fellers know who you are aligning with? And she appears somewhat like a Taliban, we must be careful .
@vivify
Biden depended on his military to do the job and they screwed it up.
Did you notice he just pumped a half billion in the evacuation? The thing that bugs me is the check point run by Taliban just outside the airport and there are literally thousands of Americans and interpreters on the other side and what are we doing to get those guards to let them through?
And what about the thousands of Afghans who worked for the US and Euros, a lot of Afghans left out in the cold so far. It is true we should have done evac first THEN withdraw forces and in fact he had to temporarily deploy some 6000 troops just to manage the withdraws. But we are left with what we have now and we have to deal with the critiques as a result.
But the whole deal was a set up from the time Trump announced his version of a drawdown.
Sec. Pompeo talked to the dude who is now Afghan top dog and those idiots, (Trump and Pompeo) actually thought the Taliban was negotiating.
In truth, T&P were being played because as soon as they announced the withdraw the Taliban started working on the local leaders and such starting probably the very next day T & P left, well P anyway.
So they were clever for sure, setting up the entrance without a shot fired because the Afghan army was leaderless, the POTUS actually spit the scene a few days ago leaving Kabul with NOTHING. So the Taliban just walked in and the Afghan soldiers ran off as fast as they could go, in fact taking over any car coming down the road to hytail it out of Dodge. ALL of them in fact so there was ZERO opposition to the takeover.
Now women, girls and young boys will feel the brunt of Taliban cruelty and I think you can figure out what they will do to that bunch.
@averagejoe1 saidGod yes. Get the bastards out as fast as possible.
How bout from Japan, Germany et al
I mean they’ve got their own anti-vax, right-wing insurgents to deal with anyway.
@averagejoe1 saidRon Paul predicted it 10 years ago.
I've been saying that since I joined the Forum. We have no crystal ball, and we are not 'in the room'.
For all we know, the helicopoters and hum-vees we left behind are wired with bugs, etc, to keep up with these savages. So, they were left behind on purpose.
@averagejoe1 saidJapan attacked the U.S. and Germany...you know. That's not comparable to the
How bout from Japan, Germany et al
sht show in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@vivify saidOh, so it's in the best interest of Iraq to remain under occupation. I sound more sarcastic than i want to be.
Biden announced he'd withdraw troops from Iraq:
https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/us-combat-forces-to-leave-iraq-by-end-of-year-biden
Given the circumstances in Afghanistan, this would be a mistake. Unlike Afghanistan, at least Iraq finally became stable. The situation in Afghanistan may have emboldened any remaining ISIS members to plot another takeover of Iraq.
Biden better slow his roll on this one.
The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan were always about making buttloads of money for the military industry giants and to flex Us' muscles at China and Russia. Bringing democracy to the people was just the fairy tail that was sold to gullible people.
They went in those wars without any exit strategy. After 20 years, staying one more month or 20 more years won't make a difference. Just get out