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    28 Feb '18 18:232 edits
    Today Billy Graham was taken to the Capital for a showing after he died and a service held.

    Does this cross the line of church and state?

    From what I hear, he is only the 4rth private citizen to be shown after dying in US history.
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    28 Feb '18 18:30
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Today Billy Graham was taken to the Capital for a showing after he died and a service held.

    Does this cross the line of church and state?

    From what I hear, he is only the 4rth private citizen to be shown after dying in US history.
    Who were the other 3?
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    28 Feb '18 18:38
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    Who were the other 3?
    It is a short list who have even been shown there.

    1. Ronald Reagan, U.S. president, 2004





    2. John F. Kennedy, U.S. president, 1963

    3. Abraham Lincoln, U.S. president, 1865

    4. Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. president, 1969 (other presidents include William Howard Taft, 1930; Herbert Hoover, 1964; Lyndon Johnson, 1973; Gerald Ford, 2007)

    5. Unknown soldier of World War I, 1921 (and others from World War II and Korean War, 1958, and Vietnam era, 1984)

    6. Douglas MacArthur, general during World War II, Korean War, 1964





    7. Rosa Parks, civil rights pioneer, 2005

    8. J. Edgar Hoover, first FBI director, 1972

    9-10. U.S. Capitol Police killed on duty, Officer Jacob Chestnut and Detective John Gibson, 1998

    It appears Rosa Parks and the two police killed on duty are the only other ones.
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    28 Feb '18 18:52
    Originally posted by @whodey
    1. Today Billy Graham was taken to the Capital [sic] for a showing after he died and a service held.

    2. Does this cross the line of church and state?

    3. From what I hear, he is only the 4rth private citizen to be shown after dying in US history.
    1. Parading a dead man around Washington is OK I guess.

    2. Yes - if you mean capitol.

    3. Were the others shown before dying?
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    28 Feb '18 18:561 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    1. Parading a dead man around Washington is OK I guess.

    2. Yes - if you mean [b]capitol
    .

    3. Were the others shown before dying?[/b]
    You are OK with it?

    There was even prayers given at the event, all this on public property is OK?

    Where is the left to protest this with their vagina hats?
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    28 Feb '18 19:591 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    You are OK with it?

    There was even prayers given at the event, all this on public property is OK?

    Where is the left to protest this with their vagina hats?
    Can you read?

    whodey: 2. Does this cross the line of church and state?

    me: 2. Yes - if you mean capitol.


    What did Billy Graham ever do for the country?

    edit: Google tells me that it was indeed at the capitol, you should have said.
    Totally wrong.
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    28 Feb '18 22:312 edits
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Can you read?

    whodey: 2. Does this cross the line of church and state?

    me: 2. Yes - if you mean [b]capitol.



    What did Billy Graham ever do for the country?

    edit: Google tells me that it was indeed at the capitol, you should have said.
    Totally wrong.[/b]
    You say tomato and I say Tomoto.

    Anyhew......

    What did he ever do for the country?

    Well let's see, he has been a spiritual counselor for every President since JFK. He joined MLK in the Civil Rights movement. He also traveled behind the iron curtain and gave sermons there. When they told him that most of the audience was KBG, he just smiled and said, "They need to hear the gospel too".

    He was instrumental in both the Civil Rights movement success and the Iron Curtain coming down. He also united the country refusing the take political sides or bothering to bicker about various denomination. His message was pure in that it focused on Christ's redemption for all mankind.

    He was a man who was a great ambassador for the country and his God. He was a man who brought integrity to the term "TV evangelist".
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    28 Feb '18 22:47
    Originally posted by @whodey
    You say tomato and I say Tomoto.

    Anyhew......
    Er ... no.
    Capital and capitol are different words with different meanings.

    He was instrumental in both the Civil Rights movement success
    A friend and supporter of ... not instrumental in its success.

    ... and the Iron Curtain coming down
    😲
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    28 Feb '18 23:01
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Er ... no.
    Capital and capitol are different words with different meanings.

    He was instrumental in both the Civil Rights movement success
    A friend and supporter of ... not instrumental in its success.

    ... and the Iron Curtain coming down
    😲
    Dammit!

    Do you teach English and, if so, is your name Mrs. Huckleberry? 😠
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    28 Feb '18 23:30
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Today Billy Graham was taken to the Capital for a showing after he died and a service held.

    Does this cross the line of church and state?

    From what I hear, he is only the 4rth private citizen to be shown after dying in US history.
    Does this cross the line of church and state?


    Perhaps, but in the scheme of things it's pretty minor compared to old men judging young women who've had abortions.
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    Originally posted by @mchill
    Does this cross the line of church and state?


    Perhaps, but in the scheme of things it's pretty minor compared to old men judging young women who've had abortions.
    It's not minor when this continued government endorsement of religion deters
    many atheists from "coming out" and is a barrier to atheists in public office.

    A Catholic President, a black President, nearly had a
    female President but can you imagine an atheist President?
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    01 Mar '18 02:06
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    It's not minor when this continued government endorsement of religion deters
    many atheists from "coming out" and is a barrier to atheists in public office.

    A Catholic President, a black President, nearly had a
    female President but can you imagine an atheist President?
    Duh, we have one now.

    No, no more, please.
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    01 Mar '18 03:04
    Originally posted by @whodey
    You are OK with it?

    There was even prayers given at the event, all this on public property is OK?

    Where is the left to protest this with their vagina hats?
    LOL @ v hats.

    I would also note that the military has non-sectarian prayers at their events and they regularly have these days even outright Islamic, Jewish, or even Satanic prayers done at public gatherings because people iinsist that they have the right to do so.
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    01 Mar '18 03:06
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    It's not minor when this continued government endorsement of religion deters
    many atheists from "coming out" and is a barrier to atheists in public office.

    A Catholic President, a black President, nearly had a
    female President but can you imagine an atheist President?
    It'd be much like it has been for a while since the trend of sectarianism is so strong.

    In all likelihood, someof our previous Presidents were private atheists.

    It is very likely that many of the Unitarian Universalist affiliated Presidents and Freemasons had very, very little to do with Chrsitainity and very little esteem for it back during the days of our Foundation. much of a position.
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    Atheists have to come out???
    What the sweet bejesus!
    What sort of a theocratic nightmare are you living?
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