Nobody said you can't use it.
However, if someone does say something, they still have to accept the consequences that go with what they said.
The American people are not obligated to buy the Dixie Chicks' CDs, or attend their concerts... if people choose not to attend their concerts that otherwise would have had the Chicks not made their comments about President Bush, that's THEIR choice.
And if they contact radio stations (as well as the stations sponsors) and ask the station not to play the Chicks' songs, then the radio station has a decision to make. It can either continue to play their songs, and face possible boycott's of sponsors, or they can take the Chicks' songs off the air. In many cases, stations chose not to play Dixie Chick songs any more (at least for a while)... again, that's a financial decision each station had to make.
People who criticized the Dixie Chicks were merely exercising THEIR free speech rights, just as the Dixie Chicks were (event though they were not actually in the United States when they made their comments).
What's so difficult to understand about that?
Originally posted by arrakisThey are free to to speak. just like I am free to not buy their records or attend their concert.
The Dixie Chicks were criticized by the American media for using free speech. What's the point of having free speech in America if you can't use it?
Please watch the trailer for their movie called "Shut Up and Sing".
http://www.myspace.com/shutupandsing
I went to see Santana a couple of weeks ago. About 2/3 of the way throught the show he stops playing and goes on a 10 min rant about the general state of U.S./world politics. Some things I agreed with some I didn't.
My problem is I paid $100 a seat to see him perform not proselytize.
There are venues for that and a concert isn't it.
So the next time an artist starts spouting his/her views feel free to stand up and yell "SHUT UP AND SING"
After all it"s what you are paying them to do.
Those sure are some smart chicks. Manipulated the euro audience for laughs and now are looking to profit from the "joke". That's the American way!
Natalie Maines Says President Remark Was A 'Joke'
04/03/2003 3:00 PM, Yahoo! Music
Nancy Brooks
(4/3/03, 3 p.m. ET) -- Dixie Chick Natalie Maines told a New Zealand TV reporter last week that her now-infamous slam at President George W. Bush was a joke.
Maines admitted that she told a London concert audience that the group was ashamed that the President is from their home state of Texas, but added, "It was a joke and it wasn't planned. And it was really funny at the time. It got lots of cheers, and that's what it was meant for. You see the trouble that you can get into if you speak religion or politics. It gets people very upset."
Maines issued a written apology after making the remark at a March 10 concert, but stations continued to ban the Chicks' music on radio stations across the country.
In addition, the Dixie Chicks' Home album saw a more than 40 percent decline in sales after Maines's remark.
-- Nancy Brooks, Nashville
Laughing all the way to the bank.
Originally posted by TJN22Gotta rec that. Kinda like ordering a steak and having someone piss on it before they serve it to you.
I went to see Santana a couple of weeks ago. About 2/3 of the way throught the show he stops playing and goes on a 10 min rant about the general state of U.S./world politics. Some things I agreed with some I didn't.
My problem is I paid $100 a seat to see him perform not proselytize.
There are venues for that and a concert isn't it.
So the next ti ...[text shortened]... e to stand up and yell "SHUT UP AND SING"
After all it"s what you are paying them to do.
btw I wouldn't pay to hear Santana sing, play the guitar yes. sing, no.
Originally posted by TheBloopSo you are in agreement... that a PUBLIC radio station should show their bi-partisan support by BANNING anyone who opposes their political view!? How is a public radio station 'free' if it takes actions against people who don't support their political views?
Nobody said you can't use it.
However, if someone does say something, they still have to accept the consequences that go with what they said.
The American people are not obligated to buy the Dixie Chicks' CDs, or attend their concerts... if people choose not to attend their concerts that otherwise would have had the Chicks not made their comments abou States when they made their comments).
What's so difficult to understand about that?
Or didn't you watch the video?
http://www.myspace.com/shutupandsing
Originally posted by arrakisIt's not a publicly owned radio station. They were privately owned stations.
So you are in agreement... that a PUBLIC radio station should show their bi-partisan support by BANNING anyone who opposes their political view!? How is a public radio station 'free' if it takes actions against people who don't support their political views?
Or didn't you watch the video?
http://www.myspace.com/shutupandsing
Originally posted by slimjimI didn't say "public owned", I said they were "public radio stations". Meaning their purpose was to broacast to the public. This is like a News station on TV which has the assumed agenda to serve the public.
It's not a publicly owned radio station. They were privately owned stations.
Originally posted by arrakisApparantly people disagreed with the Dixie Chicks and voted with their wallets.
I didn't say "public owned", I said they were "public radio stations". Meaning their purpose was to broacast to the public. This is like a News station on TV which has the assumed agenda to serve the public.
Originally posted by TJN22Asking a performer to shut up is like asking them to stop being human.
I went to see Santana a couple of weeks ago. About 2/3 of the way throught the show he stops playing and goes on a 10 min rant about the general state of U.S./world politics. Some things I agreed with some I didn't.
My problem is I paid $100 a seat to see him perform not proselytize.
There are venues for that and a concert isn't it.
So the next ti ...[text shortened]... e to stand up and yell "SHUT UP AND SING"
After all it"s what you are paying them to do.
If they want to talk about stuff they've got as much right as anyone else.
What pisses me off though is how much concerts cost nowadays.
20 years ago I remember seeing big name bands for under $20.
Now it's over $100.
I don't care how good they are, that's a rip off!
Originally posted by amannionThey have every right to talk, but I'm payin' 'em to sing. Shut up and sing.
Asking a performer to shut up is like asking them to stop being human.
If they want to talk about stuff they've got as much right as anyone else.
What pisses me off though is how much concerts cost nowadays.
20 years ago I remember seeing big name bands for under $20.
Now it's over $100.
I don't care how good they are, that's a rip off!
Originally posted by arrakisNo, all I said was that the Dixies had a right to say what they said, and the American people had a right to react any way they wanted to... to either continue their support of the band, or to stop buying their CDs...
So you are in agreement... that a PUBLIC radio station should show their bi-partisan support by BANNING anyone who opposes their political view!? How is a public radio station 'free' if it takes actions against people who don't support their political views?
Or didn't you watch the video?
http://www.myspace.com/shutupandsing
And the radio stations had a right to either keep playing the Chicks' music or to not play their music for awhile... it was purely an economic decision for the radio stations... If enough people (in the station's opinion) made it clear that they did not want to hear the Dixie Chicks any more, then the radio stations were within their rights to decide not to play that music...
It's all about choice and freedom on ALL sides. I never said a station should or should not ban anyone.
Originally posted by arrakisI could be wrong, but I believe the network news stations are owned by huge media conglomerates and under no such obligation. Since they are privately owned, their only duty is to increase shareholder value. They do this by reporting less news and filling the airtime with more crime, mayhem and entertainment stories.
I didn't say "public owned", I said they were "public radio stations". Meaning their purpose was to broacast to the public. This is like a News station on TV which has the assumed agenda to serve the public.
Originally posted by arrakisAbout 15 years ago you used to could go down to the Great State Fair of Texas and see the real Dixie Chicks perform on the curb for between 15 and 50 people. In those days, they were grateful for any audience. Those were nice, wholesome girls from good families…and boy could they sing. Voices like angels. They harmonized just like the Andrews Sisters. Now, since they got the fat one in the band and moved to Nashville and have tried their hands at activism, something’s changed – for the worse. The fat one is dark and murky and she’s just dirty. In any event, if she weren’t in this version of the band, she’d be serving me coffee and hash browns at the truck stop diner before I made my run to Bakersfield or Mobile. I’d probably look across the counter at her and say: Darlin’, can you get me a piece of that pie to go, please?
The Dixie Chicks were criticized by the American media for using free speech. What's the point of having free speech in America if you can't use it?
Please watch the trailer for their movie called "Shut Up and Sing".
http://www.myspace.com/shutupandsing