Originally posted by millermanYou're right on the money there MMan! Those Hezbollah dudes seem like a reasonable bunch....
The ceasefire comes at a perfect time,
Too many innocent people have died (yes BOTH sides) and no one gained the upper hand.
Both sides need to stop, reflect over the last month and see the destruction cause and more importantly the lives that the conflict has taken and the anguish caused to countless others and get a grip and reassess their positions.....
Originally posted by millermanCorrect me if I'm wrong, but you can't have a cease-fire with terrorists.
Well,
They're not the one's putting the ceasefire at risk. And ask the secretary general of the UN if your not sure who i'm talking about!!!
Let me rephrase that. Would you prefer to go meet with Israel or Hezbollah as you begin your "peace" talks. At a time and location of their choosing of course.
Be sure and let me know how it goes...if you make it back.
Originally posted by monster truckHave you ever met someone from the French foreign legion?
Dude, you crack me up!
Everybody knows the French are lovers, not fighters.😉
I remember an interview with a tank commander during the Balkan discrepency (if that's what we call it nowadays).
He was asked why he was in full camouflage gear instead of a blue and white costume. He answered in English with one of those classy French accents:
"If anyone tries to take my hill, they will not be met by flowers."
Cracked me up anyways.
Originally posted by shavixmirThanks for the quote Shav, it's a beauty!😲
Have you ever met someone from the French foreign legion?
I remember an interview with a tank commander during the Balkan discrepency (if that's what we call it nowadays).
He was asked why he was in full camouflage gear instead of a blue and white costume. He answered in English with one of those classy French accents:
"If anyone tries to take my hill, they will not be met by flowers."
Cracked me up anyways.
Have been to France several times and the only military personnel I met were in the Navy and Air Force. Fine young lads they were, would be proud to serve with them should the need arise.
Originally posted by kmax87here here.
It seems noone wants the simple solution.
When most countries have proud traditions of war(you only have to read the intensity in one of the most pasionate of recent threads, the one evaluating the relative merits of various US generals) to work out that maybe the only formula that will work, what with humanities proven tendency towards conflict, is the f ...[text shortened]... eved and permanent requires more than just warm and friendly notions of democratic altruism.
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Originally posted by shavixmirThat explains why the French denied air support to the Dutch in Srebeniça ......
Have you ever met someone from the French foreign legion?
I remember an interview with a tank commander during the Balkan discrepency (if that's what we call it nowadays).
He was asked why he was in full camouflage gear instead of a blue and white costume. He answered in English with one of those classy French accents:
"If anyone tries to take my hill, they will not be met by flowers."
Cracked me up anyways.
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Originally posted by PhilodorYou possibly mistake the meaning of what I have said, and looking at the post this morning, the arguent I tried to include into the post is not at all clear. The first bit is about the militaristic aspect of human nature, but the second BTW aside, was a post in progress with me dozing off in the middle of it.
Of course unlike the Israelis you don't live surrounded by hostile, retrograde, Islamic tribes so you can take an 'armchair' view of the situation.
This is what I posted:-
"BTW considering the overall might and military supremacy that is Israel's armed forces, then surely they practiced a remarkable restraint, if their unstated objective was to wipe the Lebanon off the face of this planet.
Hizbullah have quite successfully won the media war by showing a militaristic neighbour, rolling in the artillery at the 'slightest' provocation, obliterating communities with such wonton abandonmen as to question the necesity for their (Israel's) right to engage with them in such a blatantly disproportionate way, needs to have its motives checked."
What I wanted to say, but due to tiredness and wanting to post and go to bed, is that Hizbullah should have its motives checked and the media should give a clearer picture of the degree of destruction wrought by the Israeli's with respect to the greater area of Lebanese soil that is largely untouched by any Israeli actions. My point is that in purposefully embedding themselves into small communities they way they have done, and in refusing to stand up as a legitimate representative of the people should, with a flagged army and infrastructure etc, but instead in maintaining a hidden army wrapped inside of a urban landscape, Hizbullah have insured that any retaliation by Israel will always cause Israels actions to be judged harshly by the world's media. What my post was trying to say, that if Israel really had an agenda to wipe the Lebanese off the face of the earth then with their current militsry supremacy they would have easily inflicted a casualty rate 10 to 20 times the number of people killed in this recent military action.
Instead of blaming Israel, Hizbullah should stand up and acknowledge that their insistence to remain a hidden army is the root cause for the killing of their own civilian population. Why should Hizbullah use their people as human shields and then leverage the moral high ground when their shields become victims.
My point is that if you accept the difficulty of fighting Hizbullah, with the techniques that they employ which are guaranteed to frustrate and bog down and blur the line between defensive/offensive and agressive actions, then in this sense to their credit the Israeli's have shown a remarkable restraint in attempting as surgical as is possible, under the circumstances, incursion into Lebanon, to rout not only the thorn in their side, but by their actions against their own people, the enemy also of the Lebanese people, Hizbullah.
Originally posted by no1marauderI could not find the word 'dictate' on that entire page.
Israel is now attempting to dictate to the UN what countries can contribute to the UN force in LEBANON. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14434420/
And, of course, continuing to violate Lebanese airspace in northern and eastern Lebanon far from the Israeli-Lebanese border.
Originally posted by no1marauderThe likelihood of the UN doing any good in Lebanon is virtually nil.
Israel is now attempting to dictate to the UN what countries can contribute to the UN force in LEBANON. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14434420/
And, of course, continuing to violate Lebanese airspace in northern and eastern Lebanon far from the Israeli-Lebanese border.