@shavixmir saidInternational law explicitly allows skipping warning of citizens, if doing so would undermine the military objective. I looked it up.
Did you know that when bombing a civilian area, you know that there are going to be civilian deaths?
Yet, you bomb it anyway…
Tell us Joe, is that premeditated or not?
That is not the case here, but it shows the mindset of international law that you gotta do what you gotta do. “Bombing and killing ok in war, but notify citizens “.In our circumstance today, the citizens are quite aware of what is going on and need to use their heads and not rely on the government like you people do. They have to look for themselves…. bombs are coming. We need to leave. As you know, they were warned several times as this all began. That day is long passed.
My granny would say that they are asking for it. So what kind of an answer do you want from average Joe? That we should not drop any more bombs? That is the mind of a liberal. Pitiful.
Just stop the attack? Give us an answer on that when you can do this..
@AverageJoe1 saidThe point is: because you drop bombs, knowing you are killing civilians, makes you a murderer.
International law explicitly allows skipping warning of citizens, if doing so would undermine the military objective. I looked it up.
That is not the case here, but it shows the mindset of international law that you gotta do what you gotta do. “Bombing and killing ok in war, but notify citizens “.In our circumstance today, the citizens are quite aware of what is go ...[text shortened]... of a liberal. Pitiful.
Just stop the attack? Give us an answer on that when you can do this..
And you can squeal all you want, a supporter of murder you are.
Don’t believe me? Go and talk to the survivors who lost mothers, wives and husbands… let them tell you.
Oh, and feel free to argue the semantics with them if you want. Don’t forget to wear your maga hat!
@Mott-The-Hoople said
Christianity on working…
“2 Thessalonians 3:10-12
For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.”
no fool like an ignorant fool
Matthew 25:34-45
Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
@AverageJoe1 saidBecause he was a governor against outrageous government overreach which Donald Trump is the poster boy for.
Mueller hurt people, his existence caused great govt grief. Trump is the govt. So we can draw a logical conclusion from his comment. Being of faerie demeanor, I can see why his statement offfeennnnnnnnded you. But he was actually saying that he was glad that 'he is gone'. 'Not here any more', as it were.
If it had happened, to, say Mamdani, or AOC, I would be gi ...[text shortened]... mall mind. Step back and look at the big picture, not the wimpy one. It is you needs the balls.
We see now why Trump had a meltdown over the six senators saying something that should be an utter no-brainer, that the military has no reason and no obligation to obey illegal orders. Isn't this the lesson we learned from the Third Reich? The blowing up of boats off the Venezuelan coast, the kidnapping of Venezuelan president Maduro and Trump's personal war on Iraq are illegal enterprises. And yet we see the military just folding and following these illegal orders. This is a direct result of Trump and Hegseth firing the Generals and Admirals who f---ing know better.
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@AThousandYoung saidYes, Jesus vs. Paul. Another instance of the sequel being not nearly as good as the original.Matthew 25:34-45
Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you ...[text shortened]... y I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
But "Christians" love Paul, because he goes on at length about what everyone else is/should be doing and less emphasis on what you need to do.
Again, it's the "Christian" ideal of, "They are guilty, not me."
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@AverageJoe1 saidAgain, you're an idiot.
International law explicitly allows skipping warning of citizens, if doing so would undermine the military objective. I looked it up.
That is not the case here, but it shows the mindset of international law that you gotta do what you gotta do. “Bombing and killing ok in war, but notify citizens “.In our circumstance today, the citizens are quite aware of what is go ...[text shortened]... of a liberal. Pitiful.
Just stop the attack? Give us an answer on that when you can do this..
What America should be doing is helping countries like this join the international community, instead of bullying them for not doing so and then bombing them and convincing them they were right all along. That way lies madness.
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@shavixmir saidPersonl attack noted, in this time of war. My, my, so many murderers from the Hiroshima killings.(..murder? 🤔 )
The point is: because you drop bombs, knowing you are killing civilians, makes you a murderer.
And you can squeal all you want, a supporter of murder you are.
Don’t believe me? Go and talk to the survivors who lost mothers, wives and husbands… let them tell you.
Oh, and feel free to argue the semantics with them if you want. Don’t forget to wear your maga hat!
Children death tragic, we do not dismiss that; But calling a military action murder only excites your friends on the Forum. That's it. It is unintended civilian death.
By your definition, any country involved in war would be murdering civilians, because civilian casualties, unfortunately happen in every conflict. That doesn't make it right, but it does mean the issue is more complicated than you're presenting. Serious discussions look at intent, evidence and context, not just emotion and accusations.
Get a grip. Every war, People die. Some children.. If you call me a murderer, so is everyone else. You lose another one. How long can you fellers stay on the wrong side of every issue? I had another field day yesterday, shooting them down. Ask me a question. Oh, and tell us what to do with a little guy who makes $50B in 3 months by selling his new pill that xtends lokngevity by 20 years.
What to do with this billionaire?
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@Suzianne saidWhy write this, it is the established law, military should refuse illegal orders. I am busy. Whine away over nothing. Unless of course, yoy can show some order that was illegal which our troops had to follow??
Because he was a governor against outrageous government overreach which Donald Trump is the poster boy for.
We see now why Trump had a meltdown over the six senators saying something that should be an utter no-brainer, that the military has no reason and no obligation to obey illegal orders. Isn't this the lesson we learned from the Third Reich? The blowing up of ...[text shortened]... is is a direct result of Trump and Hegseth firing the Generals and Admirals who f---ing know better.
All Forum members remind you and others to not write inflaming posts. Everything you state as fact is either disputed or under investigation. It is NOT settled fact. So, I guess you lie, an intent to deceive.
If you care about the truth, we should wait for evidence… Not jump straight to worst-case conclusionsor Nazi comparisons.
Do you care about the truth? Or more about inflamiing the forum? Downer. Just your usual rhetoric. Pick it up......
@shavixmir saidHitler probably survived WW2, but aren't you the one who habitually condemns conspiracy theories? Have you abandoned your ultra conformist ways and grown as a person?
All shot and murdered.
Yet, Raygun, Hitler and trump… survive…
Does the devil look out for his own?
I mean… trump… it’s a wallowing walrus, bright orange and he oozes the sweat of paedophilia… and he’s missed 2 times?
WTF???
It’s like injecting one’s self with ozempic and accidentally shrinking the fvcking couch!
How??? What the hell is protecting these moronic fascist bastards.
Well, except Raygun… he was just senile.
The CIA spied on Lennon and MLK. Is the pope next? Trump didn't like Qasem Soleimani either and Trump killed him. They traded insults and taunts on social media.
https://ronpaulinstitute.org/us-spies-on-the-vatican/
@Metal-Brain saidHitler did not probably survive WW2.
Hitler probably survived WW2, but aren't you the one who habitually condemns conspiracy theories? Have you abandoned your ultra conformist ways and grown as a person?
The CIA spied on Lennon and MLK. Is the pope next? Trump didn't like Qasem Soleimani either and Trump killed him. They traded insults and taunts on social media.
https://ronpaulinstitute.org/us-spies-on-the-vatican/
@shavixmir saidThere is ample evidence Hitler survived WW2. The CIA certainly considered the possibility.
Hitler did not probably survive WW2.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/did-hitler-survive-world-war-ii-cia-considered-it-172284
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/hitler-s-supposed-skull-really-belongs-to-a-woman-1.837652
@Metal-Brain saidThe CIA can suck my anus.
There is ample evidence Hitler survived WW2. The CIA certainly considered the possibility.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/did-hitler-survive-world-war-ii-cia-considered-it-172284
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/hitler-s-supposed-skull-really-belongs-to-a-woman-1.837652
That they think something, is neither here nor there.
There is some evidence that the bodies found were not Hitler’s or Eva Brauns’.
That the man was shot and killed is verified by multiple testimonies.
They were probably dumped in a mass grave.
Hitler was seriously ill at the time of his death. And mad as a hatter. There is no way he would even have wanted to escape.
He didn’t want to be put on trial and he didn’t want his body paraded around.
@shavixmir saidEpstein killed himself. It is verified by multiple testimonies. There is no video evidence, just like there is no skull that belongs to Hitler like they said. Sirhan shot RFK. It is verified by multiple testimonies. How many gun shots were fired? How many shots did Sirhan fire? RFK jr. is a crazy conspiracy theorist. It is verified by multiple testimonies. JFK was assassinated by a single bullet. It is verified by multiple testimonies.
The CIA can suck my anus.
That they think something, is neither here nor there.
There is some evidence that the bodies found were not Hitler’s or Eva Brauns’.
That the man was shot and killed is verified by multiple testimonies.
They were probably dumped in a mass grave.
Hitler was seriously ill at the time of his death. And mad as a hatter. There is no way he w ...[text shortened]... e wanted to escape.
He didn’t want to be put on trial and he didn’t want his body paraded around.
If RFK jr. has no right to be a conspiracy theorist, who does?