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  1. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    12 Dec '11 02:29
    "Burma or Myanmar? Hillary Clinton opts for neither"

    "Some call the country Myanmar, others call it Burma, but for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on a landmark visit, there was a better solution – call it nothing."

    Paying the first visit by a top US official in more than 50 years in a bid to push reform, Clinton faced a variety of obstacles but none required as much linguistic ju-jitsu as not mentioning the nation's name.

    In public remarks in the showcase capital Naypyidaw, Clinton only employed the term Burma but said it sparingly, generally saying simply, "this country."

    "The most consequential question facing this country is not its relationship with America or any other nation," Clinton said at a press conference.

    "It is whether leaders will let their people live up to their God-given potential and claim their place at the heart of a Pacific century. Or will this country, once again, be left behind?" Clinton said.

    The military leaders of "this country" changed the official name two decades ago to Myanmar, saying that the old term Burma was a sorry legacy of British colonialism and implied that the ethnically torn land belonged only to the Burman majority.

    The opposition and exiles fiercely opposed the change, seeing it as a symbolic step to create an entirely new country, and the United States has stood in solidarity by officially calling the nation Burma.

    Aides to Clinton acknowledged that she faced an unhappy choice – offending her hosts by using a name they reject or angering US politicians and exiles who consistently call the country Burma.

    State Department spokesman Mark Toner, asked about the issue ahead of her trip, said that Clinton was "mindful of all the sensitivities" but that the policy of the United States had not changed.

    The United States believes that "any change of the name of a country should be a decision" for its people, Toner said. For which people? "The Burmese people."

    The US delegation had no way of finding a balance on another issue – the country's flag. Official cars and badges for the trip featured the yellow, green and red flag adopted under a controversial new constitution, not the classic blue-and-red.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/burmamyanmar/8927750/Burma-or-Myanmar-Hillary-Clinton-opts-for-neither.html

    How important is being "mindful of all the sensitivities" in the world of geopolitical and diplomatic theatre? Is this "linguistic ju-jitsu" a good example of it?
  2. 12 Dec '11 22:45
    Originally posted by FMF
    [b]"Burma or Myanmar? Hillary Clinton opts for neither"

    "Some call the country Myanmar, others call it Burma, but for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on a landmark visit, there was a better solution – call it nothing."

    [quote]Paying the first visit by a top US official in more than 50 years in a bid to push reform, Clinton faced a variety of obstacl ...[text shortened]... diplomatic theatre? Is this "linguistic ju-jitsu" a good example of it?[/b]
    Wasn't that a song?

    "Let's call the whole thing off..."
  3. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    13 Dec '11 12:17
    Hillary Clinton should be taken outside, placed against a wall and shot.

    Seriously. Her diplomatic skills are matched only by her ability to keep her man from straying.
  4. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    13 Dec '11 13:50
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Hillary Clinton should be taken outside, placed against a wall and shot.

    Seriously. Her diplomatic skills are matched only by her ability to keep her man from straying.
    Oh yay. Shav is giving lessons in diplomacy today, complete with firing squad.
  5. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    13 Dec '11 14:11
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Oh yay. Shav is giving lessons in diplomacy today, complete with firing squad.
    Shav giving lessons in diplomacy is like Jeffrey Dahmer giving lessons in culinary arts.
  6. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    16 Dec '11 07:31
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Oh yay. Shav is giving lessons in diplomacy today, complete with firing squad.
    I ain't no diplomat.
    Doesnt' mean I don't know how diplomacy works.

    She should be shot and the world will be a better place for it.