@Rajk999 saidOur AI friend answers:
1. Rape per 100,000 across Europe
Sweden: 57–73
England & Wales: 62
France: 62.7 (2023)
Finland: 42.5 (2023)
Belgium: 91
Germany: 15.5 (2023)
Georgia: 3.1 (2019)
Poland: 1.3
[Source Google AI]
Whats going on in Poland and Georgia?
Are women safer in those countries?
The perception of fewer rapes in Poland and Georgia is primarily due to discrepancies in legal definitions and reporting practices, not necessarily a lower incidence of the crime itself. The actual number of incidents is widely believed to be higher than officially recorded due to various societal and systemic factors.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidI never believe quoted statistics unless it is explained how they are compiled mathematically.
Our AI friend answers:
The perception of fewer rapes in Poland and Georgia is primarily due to discrepancies in legal definitions and reporting practices, not necessarily a lower incidence of the crime itself. The actual number of incidents is widely believed to be higher than officially recorded due to various societal and systemic factors.
They are manipulated in all walks of life to reflect what is favourable to whoever is publishing them.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidOk thanks. Thats a nice vague statement. Something along the lines of what the actual figure is in Poland and some details of the differences in reporting would be useful.
Our AI friend answers:
The perception of fewer rapes in Poland and Georgia is primarily due to discrepancies in legal definitions and reporting practices, not necessarily a lower incidence of the crime itself. The actual number of incidents is widely believed to be higher than officially recorded due to various societal and systemic factors.
@venda saidYes of course, individual sites can and will be biased, but all Google does is pull data from government sites and other published data.
I never believe quoted statistics unless it is explained how they are compiled mathematically.
They are manipulated in all walks of life to reflect what is favourable to whoever is publishing them.
Do you have conflicting figures from other sources?
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidBy a factor of 30?
Our AI friend answers:
The perception of fewer rapes in Poland and Georgia is primarily due to discrepancies in legal definitions and reporting practices, not necessarily a lower incidence of the crime itself. The actual number of incidents is widely believed to be higher than officially recorded due to various societal and systemic factors.
Seems unlikely.
@sh76 saidIn more conservative or patriarchal societies like Poland and Georgia, victims often face strong social stigma, victim-blaming, or fear of retaliation, which significantly discourages them from coming forward.
By a factor of 30?
Seems unlikely.
In contrast, a higher reporting rate in some Western European countries can be interpreted as a sign of progress, indicating that more victims feel empowered and supported to report these crimes.
@Rajk999 saidWhat's going on with Europe?
1. Rape per 100,000 across Europe
Sweden: 57–73
England & Wales: 62
France: 62.7 (2023)
Finland: 42.5 (2023)
Belgium: 91
Germany: 15.5 (2023)
Georgia: 3.1 (2019)
Poland: 1.3
[Source Google AI]
Whats going on in Poland and Georgia?
Are women safer in those countries?
They can actually get people convicted for rape?
Not in America. They put the victim on trial here.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidBingo.
In more conservative or patriarchal societies like Poland and Georgia, victims often face strong social stigma, victim-blaming, or fear of retaliation, which significantly discourages them from coming forward.
In contrast, a higher reporting rate in some Western European countries can be interpreted as a sign of progress, indicating that more victims feel empowered and supported to report these crimes.
@Rajk999 saidI'm not thinking about websites particularly,but anything quoted from official,and company sources.
Yes of course, individual sites can and will be biased, but all Google does is pull data from government sites and other published data.
Do you have conflicting figures from other sources?
You see it all the time.
Inflation.Call me cynical,but I think they include whatever data they think is relevant to come up with a percentage that suits."Inflation fell this quarter by x%."My supermarket bill didn't!
Advertising.You see things like "90% of people surveyed who expressed a preference think that our product etc,etc.
Who did they survey?.
One silly example on a TV programme years ago was a vote for the most influential musicians of all time.The answer came back-Robbie Williams!!
Who do you think voted?
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidOk. Lets forget the rape stats for now, and look at the overall crime rates and how they impact on people. The feeling is that Polish cities are overall much safer than many large European cities in the last decade or so. This indicates that in Poland rape is also relatively low and people feel safer walking in Polish cities at night.
In more conservative or patriarchal societies like Poland and Georgia, victims often face strong social stigma, victim-blaming, or fear of retaliation, which significantly discourages them from coming forward.
In contrast, a higher reporting rate in some Western European countries can be interpreted as a sign of progress, indicating that more victims feel empowered and supported to report these crimes.
Google says:
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Data from various sources indicates that cities in Poland are generally safer and have lower crime rates compared to many other major Western European cities. Poland consistently ranks favorably in safety indexes and Eurostat data.
Key Safety Indicators
Overall Crime Rates: Poland has one of the lowest overall crime rates in the European Union. According to a Eurostat report, only residents of Croatia and Lithuania reported encountering crime, violence, or vandalism less frequently than Poles.
Homicide Rates: Poland has one of the lowest homicide rates in Europe, comparable to or lower than the Western European average.
Sexual Violence and Theft: Poland's rates for sexual violence and theft are significantly lower than in many Western European countries like Sweden, France, Denmark, the Netherlands, and the UK.
Terrorism: Poland has a score of 0.0 on the Global Terrorism Index, indicating negligible terrorist activity, a contrast to some other EU nations.
City-Specific Rankings
Several Polish cities have been highly ranked among Europe's safest urban areas.
Warsaw and Kraków were ranked 3rd and 5th, respectively, in a 2025 Safe Destinations Index by Riviera Travel, which evaluated destinations based on crime levels and trends
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@venda saidI get your point. So if people want to understand what is going on, thowing out the statistics because some are obviously biased is not an option. All that is required really is to see if there is some reason for a bias.
I'm not thinking about websites particularly,but anything quoted from official,and company sources.
You see it all the time.
Inflation.Call me cynical,but I think they include whatever data they think is relevant to come up with a percentage that suits."Inflation fell this quarter by x%."My supermarket bill didn't!
Advertising.You see things like "90% of people surveyed who ...[text shortened]... st influential musicians of all time.The answer came back-Robbie Williams!!
Who do you think voted?
I am a good example. People can easily see that I have an ulterior motive in posting these stats. My take on these figures therefore need seen with that in mind.
The post that was quoted here has been removedGranted that reporting rape is not such a big deal as it was decades ago when was considered taboo or a shame on the person/family etc. The point here is a comparison of the various countries in Europe where we can assume that lifestyles and cultures are not all that different.
@Rajk999 saidI'm assuming you're going to link its lower crime rates at some point to immigrant control, so to jump ahead of you:
Ok. Lets forget the rape stats for now, and look at the overall crime rates and how they impact on people. The feeling is that Polish cities are overall much safer than many large European cities in the last decade or so. This indicates that in Poland rape is also relatively low and people feel safer walking in Polish cities at night.
Google says:
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"The immigration wave to Poland in the past decade has gone hand-in-hand with a decline in crime – both overall and among migrants themselves. Migrants commit relatively fewer crimes than Poles."
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