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Originally posted by dottewell
STANG's not stupid and he was actually being very constructive until a single "lapse".
Yes he is.
What else do you call it when someone repeats the same mistake over and over and expects a different result?
That's the definition of stupid isn't it?

My only question is .. how many times can he repeat the same drama before a ban become permanent?

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Originally posted by jammer
Yes he is.
What else do you call it when someone repeats the same mistake over and over and expects a different result?
That's the definition of stupid isn't it?

My only question is .. how many times can he repeat the same drama before a ban become permanent?
I don't think he does expect a different result. I think he does expect this kind of STANG related drama. I think he likes to say: look at me! I've been banned for saying...

etc

etc

ad nauseum

until everything is dead and cold

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Originally posted by dottewell
I don't think he does expect a different result. I think he does expect this kind of STANG related drama. I think he likes to say: look at me! I've been banned for saying...

etc

etc

ad nauseum

until everything is dead and cold
I think Dottewell is right. Stang knows exactly what he's doing. He momentarily reappears in the forum and suddenly we have a whole thread (which I unfortunately and stupidly started) devoted to Stang. It's all the same old boring bullshit over and over again.

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Originally posted by Wheely
Certainly wasn't the worst picture he could have posted either.

However, given he'd been asked not to I guess the results are not too surprising.
I'm confused. People have talked about STANG spamming and about the picture of the dead middle eastern girl. Was he banned for spamming, of which I could see none, or was he banned for the picture that we all should see ?

It seems necessary to set the record straight, even if I don't necessarily agree with all of STANG's views and methods.

All I could see was STANG's thread about 16 innocent Americans having been killed, with a link to a fresh news story about 16 innocent Afghans actually having been killed by coalition forces.

STANG went on to say something like "I bet there's Americans who are relieved to find that it was Afghans rather than Americans who were killed", with a link to the picture of the dead girl.

STANG completed his thread with an apology to Americans who weren't relieved.

His thread was abruptly deleted by the "moderators".

What a sad and frightening world we live in when even a chess site censors the truth. I think it's time we all woke up.

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Originally posted by Sambo69
What a sad and frightening world we live in when even a chess site censors the truth.
You just keep proving me right.

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well done for summing up a situation that has a history going back over a year after being at the site for a whole 2 weeks - if that is how long you've been around.

STANG is a banned poster - he's not alowed to post in the forums due to repeated spamming in the past. His reappearance in the forums was due to an error & oversight which was reversed as soon as it was noticed. He wasn't particularly banned again for any specific post he made this time, but it was revealing to see that he instantly started posting the same repetative links and themes as he did before, conformation that he hasn't changed.

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I agree, a thread like this does feed the trolls. I don't think though that it is stang's, or Delmer's fault. This thread is about shoddy moderation.

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Hi Sambo69,

I understand you "don't necessarily support my views and methods" but thanks for your support now I've been banned, yet again, from the Debates forum.

I believe that BelgianFreak is the "moderator" who is doing the censorship and he is lying that my last banning was accidently left to terminate (as indicated in the below copy of my correspondence with RHP management).

I'd greatly appreciate it if you could copy this message to the Stang? thread in the debates forum and encourage people to post their objections against BelgianFreak there.

I have been warned about spamming and ceased to do so. I have never been specifically warned about the picture, otherwise I would have ceased to reference it when I felt appropriate (e.g. recent deaths of 16 innocent Afghans).

It is therefore very unfair that I have been banned yet again.

-----Original Message-----
From: STANG
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2006 10:47 AM
To: Red Hot Pawn
Subject: RE: Banning

Thanks Chris,

This has to be one of those rare times. I've been banned for months for repeating things as others do without getting banned except that a moderator appears to object to my view on politics. As I say, I've been an ongoing subscriber and I like debating. I deserve a chance. I can assure you that I'll "market" my views differently (I'll focus on getting more petitions in parliament). By the way, have you heard of www.itsyourturn.com ?

Thanks, in advance, for your help.

STANG.


Dear STANG,

Thank you for your recent feedback.

We very rarely get directly involved with the decisions of the forum moderators as we are not able to spend enough time reading the forums to keep up-to-date with the current discussions.

Please let me know if I can help further,

Regards,

-Chris

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Originally posted by Sambo69
Hi Sambo69,

I understand you "don't necessarily support my views and methods" but thanks for your support now I've been banned, yet again, from the Debates forum.

I believe that BelgianFreak is the "moderator" who is doing the censorship and he is lying that my last banning was accidently left to terminate (as indicated in the below copy of my corres ...[text shortened]... discussions.

Please let me know if I can help further,

Regards,

-Chris
You must be new to RHP Sambo, Thats all I can say.

And now to Stang,

Stang, Everyone here at RHP (except the new guys like sambo) knows your input about America, Instead of spamming the same messages to one site, Dont you think it will be alot more effective to post the same message to all different sites?

http://forums.techguy.org/62-civilized-debate/

Here is a forum that Im sure you could last a while at, when you get banned there, let me know, I'll find another one for you

Im just trying to help 😛

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
BelgianFreak,

Stang has solicited objections from members regarding your treatment of him. Allow me to register the first public objection to your treatment of him since his request.

I object to the fact that you have not, to date, inserted a white-hot steel rod into Stang's rectum.

I object to the fact that you have not, to date, attached ...[text shortened]... ou to reconsider your behavior and actions toward him, and provide him the justice he wants.
Yeah mods, what gives? 🙂

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Originally posted by belgianfreak
well done for summing up a situation that has a history going back over a year after being at the site for a whole 2 weeks - if that is how long you've been around.

STANG is a banned poster - he's not alowed to post in the forums due to repeated spamming in the past. His reappearance in the forums was due to an error & oversight which was reve ...[text shortened]... the same repetative links and themes as he did before, conformation that he hasn't changed.
Thank God you're here to protect us from the repetitive links and themes of mass murder being committed in the name of freedom. The world and RHP are a safer place with STANG banned from the RHP forums.

(I might have said something like this before: please don't ban me for being "repetitive"😉.

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Originally posted by Sambo69
Hi Sambo69,

I understand you "don't necessarily support my views and methods" but thanks for your support now I've been banned, yet again, from the Debates forum.

I believe that BelgianFreak is the "moderator" who is doing the censorship and he is lying that my last banning was accidently left to terminate (as indicated in the below copy of my corres ...[text shortened]... discussions.

Please let me know if I can help further,

Regards,

-Chris
Interesting that you should refer to ItsYourTurn.com since its forum 'Looking for Opponents' is mainly devoted to a slanging match between posters of the shavixmir and stang variety since it does not have an effectual moderator.

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I may not agree with it, but he does have a right to his opinion. However, spamming it ain't cool either.