The Borg is obviously the Star Trek version of the soviet communists.
The Klingon empire is clearly driven by pre nineteenth century Japanese
samurai-like characters. The romulans? Too obvious. The cardassian
represent countries guilty of all sorts of atrocities that the US has
cooperated with (naturally without knowing what really went on in those
countries at the time - cough). The federation is the US, right? Always
fault free and morally superior to any other part of the world. They make
mistakes, but never purposely try to destroy other people's lives or
anything - cough, cough.
But then I remembered. The ferengi. They don't fit in with this
propaganda that is otherwise so clear. We all know that when commerce
and wealth becomes your main goals in life bad things start to happen.
Megalomaniac greed is not far from putting such values ahead in
life. The ferengi is a clear and comedic strike in the face of capitalists,
and unlike the borg and other enemies of the federation, the portrait of
the ferengi is a spot on likeness of your average capitalist. There's no
disputing that money and greed will turn you into a foul, manipulating
little cretin (huge forehead, devious eyes and tiny fangs are common
attributes you'll find in any real-world capitalist - honest), whereas
communism won't necessarily turn you into a mindless drone capable of
any atrocities in favour of the collective good.
So, is Star Trek merely the dream of a world where no such ideologies
rule, and if so, exactly what is the ideology proposed by the Star Trek
authors? Is there a name for it? A world without commerce in the sense
we know it while still protecting the rights of the individual.
Or am I just reading too much into these similarities between real life
ideologies (and countries practising them) versus the different worlds in
Star Trek?
Q represents the idea of an omnipotent God actually being just
another being (har-har) with some advanced technology at its disposal.
Species 8472 is the star trek version of the alien monster, while the
hirogen is a predator rip off. So none of these characters and their
civilisations are relevant to the discussion I'd say.
Originally posted by uzlessAmazing how you just bitch slapped my entire post into smithereens with
No, the UN is the Federation...not the US.
one simple revelation of truth. Of course! The UN is the model used for the
united federations of planets. It all makes sense now.
Thanks. 🙂
You could have waited a little though. 😛
Originally posted by JigtieYou're talking about the gossip stories -- none of that really happened. Besides, the only Enterprise worth mentioning is the one captained by James T. Kirk. Back then, the delineations were pretty clear: the Federation was the West, led by the United States (else why was Federation HQ in San Francisco?), the Klingons were the Soviet Union, and the Romulans were ancient Rome.
The Borg is obviously the Star Trek version of the soviet communists.
The Klingon empire is clearly driven by pre nineteenth century Japanese
samurai-like characters. The romulans? Too obvious. The cardassian
represent countries guilty of all sorts of atrocities that the US has
cooperated with (naturally without knowing what really went on in those
...[text shortened]... of these characters and their
civilisations are relevant to the discussion I'd say. [/i]
Originally posted by JigtieFerengi are the McCarthyists.
The Borg is obviously the Star Trek version of the soviet communists.
The Klingon empire is clearly driven by pre nineteenth century Japanese
samurai-like characters. The romulans? Too obvious. The cardassian
represent countries guilty of all sorts of atrocities that the US has
cooperated with (naturally without knowing what really went on in those
...[text shortened]... of these characters and their
civilisations are relevant to the discussion I'd say. [/i]
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterAmazing. DSR acknowledges SF as part of the US!
You're talking about the gossip stories -- none of that really happened. Besides, the only Enterprise worth mentioning is the one captained by James T. Kirk. Back then, the delineations were pretty clear: the Federation was the West, led by the United States (else why was Federation HQ in San Francisco?), the Klingons were the Soviet Union, and the Romulans were ancient Rome.
Originally posted by JigtieWikipedia says: Technocracy. Seems about right to me.
The Borg is obviously the Star Trek version of the soviet communists.
The Klingon empire is clearly driven by pre nineteenth century Japanese
samurai-like characters. The romulans? Too obvious. The cardassian
represent countries guilty of all sorts of atrocities that the US has
cooperated with (naturally without knowing what really went on in those
...[text shortened]... of these characters and their
civilisations are relevant to the discussion I'd say. [/i]
Now what?