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01 Feb 06
01 Feb 06
Please comment.
I disliked these comments (paraphrased):
We love our freedom, and will fight for it. The US isn't fighting in Iraq or anywhere for American freedom!?
To maintain our security we must lead. Please. Nobody likes a self appointed dictator.
My apologies if the paraphrasing is poor. The speech is live right now.
01 Feb 06
Originally posted by AThousandYoungArrogance and truth.......a great combination. Go read some History books, and learn more. While America didn't single-handedly win WW2 on behalf of Europe, western Europe, maybe with the exception of Great Britain, would surely have fallen into Russian hands. The economic might of the U.S. tipped the balance in favor of the allies, and thus History was made. The U.S. arguably beat Japan almost singlehandedly. These truths are hard for many Euros to swallow, but my Mom, from Italy, who married a G.I. at the end of the war, would tell you, if she were alive today, that America did indeed "save the day".....I'm not gloating.....just stating facts....
Oh yeah. We were the nation responseable for liberating Europe in WWII. What arrogance!
01 Feb 06
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWe are fighting for our freedom indirectly, if you can see it that way. If we don't destroy these SOB Islamofascists on there own turf, your sister and mother stand a good chance of being raped, and you beheaded on a square somewhere in some town America.....me included...
Please comment.
I disliked these comments (paraphrased):
We love our freedom, and will fight for it. The US isn't fighting in Iraq or anywhere for American freedom!?
To maintain our security we must lead. Please. Nobody likes a self appointed dictator.
My apologies if the paraphrasing is poor. The speech is live right now.
01 Feb 06
Originally posted by AThousandYoungHis State of the Union Address was typical BS.....not one item will literally be addressed...it's all lipservice....enjoy another 3 years of lipservice........
Please comment.
I disliked these comments (paraphrased):
We love our freedom, and will fight for it. The US isn't fighting in Iraq or anywhere for American freedom!?
To maintain our security we must lead. Please. Nobody likes a self appointed dictator.
My apologies if the paraphrasing is poor. The speech is live right now.
01 Feb 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicWhat if England or Russia didn't help?
Arrogance and truth.......a great combination. Go read some History books, and learn more. While America didn't single-handedly win WW2 on behalf of Europe, western Europe, maybe with the exception of Great Britain, would surely have fallen into Russian hands. The economic might of the U.S. tipped the balance in favor of the allies, and thus Histo ...[text shortened]... oday, that America did indeed "save the day".....I'm not gloating.....just stating facts....
01 Feb 06
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungYou are showing your ignorance of WW2, no offense intended. Russia and England had no choice but to fight as Germany declared war on both countries and attacking them outright. If GB and Russia didn't "help" as you say, and rolled over "dead", Germany may well be ruler of Europe and Russia today.
What if England or Russia didn't help?
01 Feb 06
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Originally posted by chancremechanicYou are showing your ignorance of WWII as well; Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around. Most German forces throughout the war were engaged on the Eastern Front, almost 80% until D-Day and over 60% afterwards. By and large, the Soviets defeated the Germans and probably would have done so whether the US entered the war or not.
You are showing your ignorance of WW2, no offense intended. Russia and England had no choice to fight as Germany declared war on both countries and attacking them outright. If GB and Russia didn't "help" as you say, and rolled over "dead", Germany may well be ruler of Europe and Russia today.
BTW, England declared war on Germany after the Germans invaded Poland; the Germans did not declare war on England and would have been quite happy not to fight the British at all (at least in the short run).
01 Feb 06
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Originally posted by no1marauderThe USA was more focused on Japan .How much did the Russians help there?As far as Eurpoe is concerned the US supplied most of the weapony,and poured alot of funds and manpower into it.Sure the Russians did a major part of the fighting in the east but the Yanks with the English etc.did the damage in the west and forced Hitler to fight on 2 fronts.
You are showing your ignorance of WWII as well; Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around. Most German forces throughout the war were engaged on the Eastern Front, almost 80% until D-Day and over 60% afterwards. By and large, the Soviets defeated the Germans and probably would have done so whether the US entered the war or not.
BTW ...[text shortened]... and and would have been quite happy not to fight the British at all (at least in the short run).
01 Feb 06
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Originally posted by no1marauderNo1!, I'm answering thousand's question about what if England and Russia didn't fight. You, as usual, stick your grubby fingers into the debate pie, stirring up the usual fecal ingredients! I never said anything about the U.S. declaring war on Germany. Ok, England declared war on Germany; a slight error on my part that didin't have anything to do with our discussion regarding the question :what if England and Russia refused to fight; other than that, I agree with the rest of your assessment of the situation....
You are showing your ignorance of WWII as well; Germany declared war on the US, not the other way around. Most German forces throughout the war were engaged on the Eastern Front, almost 80% until D-Day and over 60% afterwards. By and large, the Soviets defeated the Germans and probably would have done so whether the US entered the war or not.
BTW ...[text shortened]... and and would have been quite happy not to fight the British at all (at least in the short run).