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OK so you are not interested in honest discussion, you are just here to be a jerk.

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Did I ever claim per million ratings were wrong? Feel free to bring up per million numbers.

If you combine Texas and California you get a population slightly larger than the UK.

Deaths for those two states yesterday 102

How many deaths in the UK? Well over 600, almost 700?

The northeast is more pathetic than the UK, they can stay shut down. Other states that are doing much better need to reopen.

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Oh and tests per million

US 20k
UK 16k

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@eladar said
Did I ever claim per million ratings were wrong? Feel free to bring up per million numbers.

If you combine Texas and California you get a population slightly larger than the UK.

Deaths for those two states yesterday 102

How many deaths in the UK? Well over 600, almost 700?

The northeast is more pathetic than the UK, they can stay shut down. Other states that are doing much better need to reopen.
The numbers are skewed, UK includes deaths in care homes, US doesn't. The US death rate is far, far higher than what is being reported.

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@proper-knob said
The numbers are skewed, UK includes deaths in care homes, US doesn't. The US death rate is far, far higher than what is being reported.
Really? Glad to hear that.

Critics say the moves helped to fuel the COVID-19 outbreak in nursing homes and adult living facilities across the state that has killed at least 3,653 people. That’s one in every five people counted in the state’s nearly inconceivable overall death toll, which now exceeds 18,000. 

https://nypost.com/2020/04/29/ny-state-let-coronavirus-infected-nurses-work-in-nursing-home/

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They adjusted the numbers a few days ago. Before those who only died in hospitals were being counted -

"Public Health England (PHE) has developed a new method of reporting daily COVID-19 deaths, to give a more complete number of those who have died from the virus. For the first time from today, Wednesday 29 April 2020, the government’s daily figure will include deaths that have occurred in all settings where there has been a positive COVID-19 test, including hospitals, care homes and the wider community.

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You claim the US does not count deaths in Nursing Homes, obviously you are incorrect based on what I quoted.

Besides States count, not the US.

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@eladar said
@Proper-Knob

You claim the US does not count deaths in Nursing Homes, obviously you are incorrect based on what I quoted.

Besides States count, not the US.
You sure? This is an article about one single state. Besides, this is from the article you posted -

At least 15 people have died at the Hornell Gardens nursing home in the tiny town of Hornell since the outbreak, according to county tallies. State records show just seven deaths across the county and include no data about this home.

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@proper-knob said
You sure? This is an article about one single state. Besides, this is from the article you posted -

At least 15 people have died at the Hornell Gardens nursing home in the tiny town of Hornell since the outbreak, according to county tallies. State records show just seven deaths across the county and include no data about this home.
outbreak in nursing homes and adult living facilities across the state that has killed at least 3,653 people

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@eladar said
@Proper-Knob
You claim the US does not count deaths in Nursing Homes, obviously you are incorrect based on what I quoted.
The data on care home deaths has changed since i last checked. Not all states are counting though.

The Associated Press has been compiling a tally from state health departments and media reports, and found at least 13,762 deaths from outbreaks in nursing homes and long-term care facilities across the country. This is likely an undercount because only about half the states are currently reporting nursing home deaths and not all count those who died without ever being tested for Covid-19.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-coronavirus-death-toll-latest-figure-nursing-homes-a9496021.html

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@proper-knob said
The data on care home deaths has changed since i last checked. Not all states are counting though.

[quote]The Associated Press has been compiling a tally from state health departments and media reports, and found at least 13,762 deaths from outbreaks in nursing homes and long-term care facilities across the country. This is likely an undercount because [b]only about ha ...[text shortened]... endent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-coronavirus-death-toll-latest-figure-nursing-homes-a9496021.html
You claimed no nursing home deaths are being counted.

Face it, the numbers are so much lower in most states compared to UK no undercount of nursing homes can account for it.


UK total deaths 28131

California and Texas combined 3066

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@eladar said
You claimed no nursing home deaths are being counted.

Face it, the numbers are so much lower in most states compared to UK no indercount of nursing homes can account for it.
Agree with both points.

But my point still stands, if only half of US states are adding care home deaths to the tally, the number of Covid-19 deaths in the US is higher than what is being reported.

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@eladar said
You claimed no nursing home deaths are being counted.

Face it, the numbers are so much lower in most states compared to UK no undercount of nursing homes can account for it.
I am right (i think), the US is not counting care home deaths nationally.

While the U.S. is not currently counting nursing home deaths nationally, it’s estimated that thousands have died from or with COVID-19 complications in these facilities across the U.S. Last week ABC News reported that based on the reporting of 28 states, the death toll in long-term care facilities has already surged past 10,000.

Yet it was also only last week that the CDC began the laborious process of preparing to incorporate nursing home deaths into its overall death count. The agency issued a notification saying it would soon begin requiring that nursing homes report communicable disease deaths promptly to federal authorities. It’s unclear when the U.S. will begin including those figures in its national death count.


Currently, care home deaths are not being added to the national death count.