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@no1marauder said
Depends. BTW, States aren't "closed" so they won't need to "open back up". But I'll take your propaganda wording to mean when non-essential businesses will be permitted to reopen.

June maybe. Hopefully sooner in NY, though May 1st is out of the question.
Bold prediction

NYC back open by May 15


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/worst-is-over-cuomo-says-as-6-states-ally-to-reopen-economy-live-updates/ar-BB12yyxi

‘Worst Is Over,’ Cuomo Says as 6 States Ally to Reopen Economy: Live Updates


@Eladar
No accounting for stupid. Right now there is a resurgence of C19 in China.
I guess that could NEVER happen here since we are SO much more on the ball, eh?

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@sonhouse

Resurgence assumes you believe China's numbers to begin with.

You are a coward.


@no1marauder said
The Donald disagrees:

"“For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government,” tweeted Trump on Monday. “Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect. It is the decision of the President, and for man ...[text shortened]... so ignorant of basic Constitutional principles has no business in the White House.

Agreed, Earl?
No1, All I can say is so far Trump has not told any state to do anything as best I know.

I see states that have shut down dentists and kept abortion clinics open. Is that the president? Lottery tickets are still being sold...? So you can't get a root canal and are in real pain but you can buy a lottery ticket on your way to get an abortion! yikes.

Trump is blowing his horn here. It is all state and local so far


@Earl-of-Trumps

Just today the dentist called to set up an appointment for Friday. They were shut down, but I guess not now.


@sonhouse said
@Eladar
No accounting for stupid. Right now there is a resurgence of C19 in China.
I guess that could NEVER happen here since we are SO much more on the ball, eh?
A resurgence is highly unlikely in Sweden, where the death attributed to people that died of all causes but happened to have corona at that time, is only minuscule. It is still only 0.091/1000. As they have not had a lock-down they will have less to fear of a re-occurrence.


@eladar said
Bold prediction

NYC back open by May 15
NYC already canceled state exams for kids (given at the end of June) and will likely not reopen schools this school year.

Your prediction is bold. It simply won't actually happen.


@quackquack said
NYC already canceled state exams for kids (given at the end of June) and will likely not reopen schools this school year.

Your prediction is bold. It simply won't actually happen.
Not schools, but businesses.

Schools are over for the entire nation this year. Perhaps a state or two still has school.

But businesses will reopen. People will be able to buy food and survive.


@eladar said
Not schools, but businesses.

Schools are over for the entire nation this year. Perhaps a state or two still has school.

But businesses will reopen. People will be able to buy food and survive.
Are you under the impression that people cannot buy food?

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@quackquack said
Are you under the impression that people cannot buy food?
Have you seen the food lines?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/coronavirus-long-lines-america.html


@quackquack said
NYC already canceled state exams for kids (given at the end of June) and will likely not reopen schools this school year.

Your prediction is bold. It simply won't actually happen.
I'm not sure; Cuomo was saying that it didn't make sense to reopen non-essential businesses without reopening the schools; someone has to look after the kids:

""Schools, businesses, workforce, transportation — it all has to be coordinated," Cuomo said. “If you say schools are closed through June then you’re effectively saying businesses are closed through June because you can’t restart the economy fully without restarting schools. Schools also provide not just education but also in many ways child care for people who can then go to work."

https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/new-york-schools-businesses-must-reopen-at-same-time-cuomo-says

I don't get the impression that Cuomo wants to wait until June or cancel the entire school year. Maybe it could be extended into July.


@earl-of-trumps said
No1, All I can say is so far Trump has not told any state to do anything as best I know.

I see states that have shut down dentists and kept abortion clinics open. Is that the president? Lottery tickets are still being sold...? So you can't get a root canal and are in real pain but you can buy a lottery ticket on your way to get an abortion! yikes.

Trump is blowing his horn here. It is all state and local so far
How about what he said today?:

"The president of the United States has the authority to do what the president has the authority to do, which is very powerful. The president of the United States calls the shots,” Trump said. "If we weren’t here for the states, you would’ve had a problem in this country like you’ve never seen before.

“It’s a decision for the president of the United States. Now with that being said, we’re going to work with the states because it’s very important,” he added but emphasized that “they can’t do anything without the approval of the president of the United States.”

“When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total, and that's the way it's got to be. It’s total, and the governors know that,” Trump said during the news conference.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-authority-is-total-trump-claims-he-has-power-to-decide-when-states-reopen/ar-BB12zYXV?li=BBnb7Kz

Still unconcerned?


@jimmac said
A resurgence is highly unlikely in Sweden, where the death attributed to people that died of all causes but happened to have corona at that time, is only minuscule. It is still only 0.091/1000. As they have not had a lock-down they will have less to fear of a re-occurrence.
well, 0.091/1000 sounds "miniscule" but that is 91/million which is higher than the US (71).


@Earl-of-Trumps

Australia has a very low per million death rate. They, like the rest of the Southern Hemisphere, have not even gotten started yet.