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Stop blaming rap (part 2)

Stop blaming rap (part 2)

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Anyone demonizing rap nowadays is clearly not someone who listens to rap and is clearly very old.

Rap hasn't been "gangsta" since the early 2000s. The biggest rapper of the last 3 decades has been Drake, an artist frequently referred to as "soft" and known for making emotional, introspective music.

Other big names in Rap: Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Nicki Minaj: none of these are "gansta" rappers. The first two rap about social issues; Nicki Minaj occasionally references guns, but mostly makes pop music with sexy themes. The same goes for Cardi B; of the people mentioned so far, she references guns and violence the most; but even she mostly sticks to themes like sex and materialism.

I just named the biggest rappers of the last two to three decades, most of whom stick to nonviolent subjects. The "gangsta" part of rap has died down to almost non-existence. Don't get me wrong: it still exists but only in a handful of rappers. Mainstream rap music is mostly about sex and materialism. Even Eminem, who used to be the single biggest rapper, now just makes corny joke in his songs, and occasional insults to other pop stars.

Anyone who still thinks rap music is violent is someone old who remembers news they heard about "ganstga rap" back in the 90's.

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@vivify said
Anyone demonizing rap nowadays is clearly not someone who listens to rap and is clearly very old.

Rap hasn't been "gangsta" since the early 2000s. The biggest rapper of the last 3 decades has been Drake, an artist frequently referred to as "soft" and known for making emotional, introspective music.

Other big names in Rap: Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Nicki Minaj: none of ...[text shortened]... music is violent is someone old who remembers news they heard about "ganstga rap" back in the 90's.
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@rajk999 said
Attention :
We have filtered out all the poison from the water.
Come and drink.
Its clean.
We promise
We take full responsibility if you die


Hmmm ... No Thank You
You don't need to like it; just stopping claiming it's violent. Rap went from people rapping about crack and murder to kids rapping about passing out on sleep meds and getting cheated on.

Rap sucks now.

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@vivify said
You don't need to like it; just stopping claiming it's violent. Rap went from people rapping about crack and murder to kids rapping about passing out on sleep meds and getting cheated on.

Rap sucks now.
Still a complete waste of time. So its less violent now. Now they gone across to sex and drugs and you think that is good? So the black youth have a great example and role model. Now the youth flunk school, become dropouts, chase after sex and drugs and a just a little bit of violence, not much .. lol 😀 Are you right in your head to support this nonsense that is destroying your people.

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@vivify said
Rap hasn't been "gangsta" since the early 2000s. The biggest rapper of the last 3 decades has been Drake, an artist frequently referred to as "soft" and known for making emotional, introspective music.
Oh the hell you say, there are thousands of recent rap videos that praise the thug lifestyle and brag about being all gangsta, etc.
Stop lying.

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@dood111 said
Oh the hell you say, there are thousands of recent rap videos that praise the thug lifestyle and brag about being all gangsta, etc.
Stop lying.
Wrong.

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@rajk999 said
Still a complete waste of time. So its less violent now. Now they gone across to sex and drugs and you think that is good? So the black youth have a great example and role model. Now the youth flunk school, become dropouts, chase after sex and drugs and a just a little bit of violence, not much .. lol 😀 Are you right in your head to support this nonsense that is destroying your people.
No one, regardless of genre, looks to people from music videos as "role models".

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@vivify
https://www.dailyemerald.com/arts-culture/gang-culture-in-hip-hop-a-quick-look-into-its-relevance-in-2019/article_cd95cc90-3597-11e9-81ca-27df32d970a4.html

Hip-hop is a long-standing genre that has lasted for over three decades now. From origins of good storytelling to seeing who can put the best words together to say something insightful, hip-hop has grown a lot to be where it is today. Hip-hop has always had a strong presence of “the streets” associated with it. When one references “the streets,” it’s often associated with gritty violence, drugs and accurate depictions of what is happening around the storyteller, also known as the rapper. Gang culture is one of the strongest elements of hip-hop that has managed to stay present up until today.

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@vivify
https://www.dailyemerald.com/arts-culture/gang-culture-in-hip-hop-a-quick-look-into-its-relevance-in-2019/article_cd95cc90-3597-11e9-81ca-27df32d970a4.html

Hip-hop is a long-standing genre that has lasted for over three decades now. From origins of good storytelling to seeing who can put the best words together to say something insightful, hip-hop has grown a lot t ...[text shortened]... culture is one of the strongest elements of hip-hop that has managed to stay present up until today.
This article mentions a grand total of 4 rappers, one of them which I already mentioned, Cardi B, who mostly raps about sex and money.

So that leaves 3: two of which aren't even relevant in hip-hop anymore. One of those two is a one-hit wonder and the other made the news for ratting out his fellow gang members to avoid prison time. That rapper (Takashi) is now seen as a joke and is no longer affiliated with any gangs. He now spends his time trolling on Twitter and making music for suburban white kids.

That leaves a grand total of one semi-relevant rapper, YG, who also makes music mostly rapping about girls and money.

To recap: your article mentions *only* 4 rappers; one of whom I've already discussed, two of whom are no longer relevant, and one who's radio songs consist of rapping about girls and money.

You probably spent more time Googling this article than it took for me to refute it.

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https://psmag.com/news/pop-music-lyrics-are-as-violent-as-those-in-hip-hop

POP MUSIC LYRICS ARE MORE VIOLENT THAN THOSE IN HIP-HOP

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@vivify said
This article mentions a grand total of 4 rappers, one of them which I already mentioned, Cardi B, who mostly raps about sex and money.

So that leaves 3: two of which aren't even relevant in hip-hop anymore. One of those two is a one-hit wonder and the other made the news for ratting out his fellow gang members to avoid prison time. That rapper (Takashi) is now seen as a ...[text shortened]... and money.

You probably spent more time Googling this article than it took for me to refute it.
Of course it took more time, you just responded with your own opion. I believe you said that no rappers are doing gangsta rap. Now you say just a few, then claim you have refuted that it still exists.

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@eladar said
Of course it took more time, you just responded with your own opion.
I gave no opinions, only objective facts. It's an objective fact that two of the rappers mentioned in your article (out of a whopping four) are no longer relevant; and it's a fact that the other two mostly rap about sex and money.

I believe you said that no rappers are doing gangsta rap.

"Don't get me wrong: it still exists but only in a handful of rappers."---Vivify

And that's in the OP. Learn to read.

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@vivify said
I gave no opinions, only objective facts. It's an objective fact that two of the rappers mentioned in your article (out of a whopping four) are no longer relevant; and it's a fact that the other two mostly rap about sex and money.

I believe you said that no rappers are doing gangsta rap.

"Don't get me wrong: it still exists but only in a handful of rappers."---Vivify

And that's in the OP. Learn to read.
Sex and materialism portrayed in the rap music is part of the gangsta lifestyle.

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@vivify said
No one, regardless of genre, looks to people from music videos as "role models".
Of course they do. They have no fathers in the home. The mothers not sure who the father is. He could be any one of a dozen men. they grow up watching these idiot rap singers in videos that glorify sex, drugs, rape vulgarity, flashy cars. So that is what they aim for.

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@eladar said
Sex and materialism portrayed in the rap music is part of the gangsta lifestyle.
So Madonna's a gangster because she made "Material Girl" and sang about sex?

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