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@jimm619 said
The Ukraine already has nukes.
No, they don't.

Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

This has been in the news this last week.


@kevcvs57 said
Ukraine is a sovereign nation you halfwit and Putin knew for a fact that Ukraine was not going to be given nato membership.
Putin invaded Ukraine because it was a successful democracy that was pivoting toward the liberalism and economic prosperity it saw in the west.
Putin’s oligarchical Neo fascist regime could not afford an example of successful democratic liberal Slavic nation on his border.
The Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe. It might actually be the poorest.
It is an economic failure.

I'm not sure where you got the idea they were going to be prosperous 🙄


@wildgrass said
Do you support the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
The entire human history is about war and invasions.

Only liberals think that won't continue 🙄

Do I support it?

I think if a country can take another then go for it.
I've been waiting my whole life for the USA to invade and conquer Canada 😉


@contenchess said
The entire human history is about war and invasions.

Only liberals think that won't continue 🙄

Do I support it?

I think if a country can take another then go for it.
I've been waiting my whole life for the USA to invade and conquer Canada 😉
Especially Trump's hero Putin, right?


@contenchess said
The Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe. It might actually be the poorest.
It is an economic failure.

I'm not sure where you got the idea they were going to be prosperous 🙄
I’m pretty sure I was referring to their potential in a democracy, the Russians have no such luxury.
That’s the reality that Putin is determined to export from the barrel of a tank.
You halfwit.

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@kevcvs57 said
I’m pretty sure I was referring to their potential in a democracy, the Russians have no such luxury.
That’s the reality that Putin is determined to export from the barrel of a tank.
You halfwit.
They've been a "democracy" for a while (well except for the 2014 coup) but their economy is still a mess. As I showed, it's GDP per capita is lower today than it was 2008 and is the lowest in Europe by far (less than 1/3 of Russia's).


@jimm619 said
The Ukraine already has nukes.
no they dont


They would have nukes right after they become a part of Nato and Putin obviously doesn't want that.

It's understandable too.


@contenchess said
The Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe. It might actually be the poorest.
It is an economic failure.

I'm not sure where you got the idea they were going to be prosperous 🙄
It is an extremely corrupt country. The Russians can do no worse when they control it again.


@contenchess said
They would have nukes right after they become a part of Nato and Putin obviously doesn't want that.

It's understandable too.
Agreed.
Has sonhouse accused you of working for the Russians yet?


@Contenchess
Who told you Ukrainians were anti Russia? They get along fine with the Russian side, at least till Putin stuck his ugly nose in.
And the baltics have to abide by NATO rules, an attack on one is an attack on all.
That is the bottom line no matter what the political divides are in those NATO countries.


@sonhouse said
@Contenchess
Who told you Ukrainians were anti Russia? They get along fine with the Russian side, at least till Putin stuck his ugly nose in.
And the baltics have to abide by NATO rules, an attack on one is an attack on all.
That is the bottom line no matter what the political divides are in those NATO countries.
Where does it say NATO has to attack and invade nations that respected it's borders? NATO invaded Libya. NATO invaded Serbia.

https://orinocotribune.com/forgotten-war-crimes-natos-1999-attack-on-serbias-state-tv-headquarters/

NATO is clearly not just a defense pact, it is an invasion pact. An aggression pact. NATO starts unprovoked wars.

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@metal-brain said
It is an extremely corrupt country. The Russians can do no worse when they control it again.
Old news.


I don't support neo nazis in Ukraine so I must be a right winger. That is how stupid this has gotten. Our unprovoked invasions are good, but Russia's are bad. Silly.

Democrats are now supporting neo nazis in Ukraine. That is how propagandized we are and people don't see it. Isn't it obvious? It isn't about civilian deaths. US drone strikes kill civilians.

Deep down inside even democrats know they are being fed BS reasons to hate Russia. After the cold war NATO expanded. That is the opposite of what should have happened. NATO invaded Serbia and Libya. They were unprovoked invasions.

NATO killed journalists. That means NATO killed civilians. Russia is no worse. In war there are civilian casualties. Civilians are dying in Yemen. They were dying when Trump was POTUS and they are dying under Biden. Where is the news coverage of that?

Whenever there is bipartisan agreement you can expect a good screwing coming to you. You are all going to pay for more weapons so more people will die in Ukraine. The big power players don't pay anything. You do and you get nothing in return.

Enjoy your bipartisan screwing.


@Metal-Brain

Well said 👍