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Tales About Jan 6th: Nick Ochs 'Was it worth it?'

Tales About Jan 6th: Nick Ochs 'Was it worth it?'

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Wajoma
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88 days since the last post in this now closed thread. The last post was of course sh_tstroker gloating on the white supremacist Nic Ochs being separated from his POC wife and child.

EP10 - I'M NOT A CRIMINAL, I'M A CRIME ENTHUSIAST

https://censored.tv/watch/shows/letters-from-prison/episode/ep10-im-not-a-criminal-i

He might be out soon and I will be copy/pasting a record of strokers and others bitter and twisted gloating.

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@Wajoma

It seems that the guy srawled "Murder the Media" on a door in the federal building and posted the photo of it. That in itself is probably a felony.

he also pleaded guilty , so he seesm not to be the martyr you make him.

Question: Should people respect the property of others (and the communal)?

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@Wajoma said
88 days since the last post in this now closed thread. The last post was of course sh_tstroker gloating on the white supremacist Nic Ochs being separated from his POC wife and child.

EP10 - I'M NOT A CRIMINAL, I'M A CRIME ENTHUSIAST

https://censored.tv/watch/shows/letters-from-prison/episode/ep10-im-not-a-criminal-i

He might be out soon and I will be copy/pasting a record of strokers and others bitter and twisted gloating.
Who? Who cares?

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@Ponderable

"It seems that the guy srawled "Murder the Media" on a door in the federal building and posted the photo of it. That in itself is probably a felony.

he also pleaded guilty , so he seesm not to be the martyr you make him.

Question: Should people respect the property of others (and the communal)?"


This is an unusual take, nothing I've said hints at martyrdom, and especially nothing Nick relates himself smells of martyrdom. When he says "...they could have got me on trespassing, that's what they arrested me for. I'm probably the first person in American history thrown in a high security federal facility for trespassing..." it's not as a martyr but simply a matter of fact account of what happened.

Obviously you never listened to the 'letter from prison', the 10th in a series, the first half of which is original comment on prison life and the people that live there told by an articulate inmate.

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@Wajoma said
@Ponderable

"It seems that the guy srawled "Murder the Media" on a door in the federal building and posted the photo of it. That in itself is probably a felony.

he also pleaded guilty , so he seesm not to be the martyr you make him.

Question: Should people respect the property of others (and the communal)?"


This is an unusual take, nothing I've said hints at ...[text shortened]... hich is original comment on prison life and the people that live there told by an articulate inmate.
Is it a sequel to "My Life As An American White Supremacist"?

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@Suzianne said
Is it a sequel to "My Life As An American White Supremacist"?
You asked 'Who cares?"

Nicks black wife and mixed race children care.

You stupid, stupid kant.

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@Wajoma said
@Ponderable

"It seems that the guy srawled "Murder the Media" on a door in the federal building and posted the photo of it. That in itself is probably a felony.

he also pleaded guilty , so he seesm not to be the martyr you make him.

Question: Should people respect the property of others (and the communal)?"


This is an unusual take, nothing I've said hints at ...[text shortened]... hich is original comment on prison life and the people that live there told by an articulate inmate.
Ochs pled guilty to Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, a felony, not mere trespassing. In a video that day, he stated "we stormed the [expletive deleted] US Capitol and made Congress flee" showing his intent to commit that crime.https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/09/hawaii-proud-boys-founder-pleads-guilty-to-role-in-jan-6-riot/

Your hero worship of him is misplaced.

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@no1marauder said
Ochs pled guilty to Obstruction of an Official Proceeding, a felony, not mere trespassing. In a video that day, he stated "we stormed the [expletive deleted] US Capitol and made Congress flee" showing his intent to commit that crime.https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/09/hawaii-proud-boys-founder-pleads-guilty-to-role-in-jan-6-riot/

Your hero worship of him is misplaced.
Arrested for trespass.

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@Wajoma said
You asked 'Who cares?"

Nicks black wife and mixed race children care.

You stupid, stupid kant.
Is mulattto still in the English language. Asking for a friend

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@Wajoma said
Arrested for trespass.
https://www.justice.gov/media/1244181/dl

"I am pleading guilty because I am in fact guilty of the offense(s) identified in this Agreement."

Signed,

Nicholas Ochs

That offense is the felony of obstruction of an official proceeding 18 USC 1512(c)(2) as stated in paragraph 1 of the Agreement Ochs signed.

Ochs was informed that the sentencing guidelines called for a term of incarceration of from 41 to 51 months. Paragraph C.

He signed the Agreement anyway.

Again, your hero worship of him is misplaced.

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@Wajoma said
Arrested for trespass.
Can you provide a source (preferably an official docuemnt not someoin a video saying thatey heard...)

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@no1marauder said
https://www.justice.gov/media/1244181/dl

"I am pleading guilty because I am in fact guilty of the offense(s) identified in this Agreement."

Signed,

Nicholas Ochs

That offense is the felony of obstruction of an official proceeding 18 USC 1512(c)(2) as stated in paragraph 1 of the Agreement Ochs signed.

Ochs was informed that the sentencing guidelines called ...[text shortened]... hs. Paragraph C.

He signed the Agreement anyway.

Again, your hero worship of him is misplaced.
No1. you know how it works, sign this and you're looking at 4 years, be awkward and you might end up like Biggs with 20 years. 4 years is pretty rugged, what would it have been if he'd made up some BS about the PBs.

a/ Plead not guilty and possibly end up with 20 years.
b/ Sign the 'uncoerced' confession and get 4 years.
c/ Tell a few lies about PB and we'll talk.

Nick chose 'b'.

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@Ponderable said
Can you provide a source (preferably an official docuemnt not someoin a video saying thatey heard...)
Those are Nicks words in the vid, obviously they can't make a vid in prison. So Nick writes a letter to Censored.TV I linked to Episode 10 in the OP of this thread. That letter is then narrated by someone else wearing an obviously CGI face.

It is not someone saying what they heard.

Here's Ep 06:

https://censored.tv/watch/shows/letters-from-prison/episode/letters-from-prison-ep06-solitary

Although I'm getting the idea you're just trolling?

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@Wajoma said
No1. you know how it works, sign this and you're looking at 4 years, be awkward and you might end up like Biggs with 20 years. 4 years is pretty rugged, what would it have been if he'd made up some BS about the PBs.

a/ Plead not guilty and possibly end up with 20 years.
b/ Sign the 'uncoerced' confession and get 4 years.
c/ Tell a few lies about PB and we'll talk.

Nick chose 'b'.
It's simple really; Ochs committed multiple crimes which could be punished with major prison time (he was even stupid enough to make videos of him doing it). He was offered a plea deal which involved admitting to committing a serious felony with the promise of reduced prison time. He accepted the deal.

Since the majority of criminal defendants do exactly the same thing, your seeming belief in Och's heroism in doing so is misplaced. And his whining about being a "political prisoner" when he admitted to a serious felony and received an expected prison term he agreed to lacks the Roarkian elements necessary for proper groveling before.

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@no1marauder said
It's simple really; Ochs committed multiple crimes which could be punished with major prison time (he was even stupid enough to make videos of him doing it). He was offered a plea deal which involved admitting to committing a serious felony with the promise of reduced prison time. He accepted the deal.

Since the majority of criminal defendants do exactly the same thin ...[text shortened]... expected prison term he agreed to lacks the Roarkian elements necessary for proper groveling before.
Wrongly Prosecuted.

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