@AverageJoe1 saidTrump already passed that line when he pardoned 1500 insurrectionists including 150 VIOLENT ones. Vance said well of course we won't pardon the violent ones but Trump needed his secret army and knew they would all be loyal subjects.
no argument there. do you like the chances of Garcia, and the leniency for the truck driver
@AverageJoe1 saidI sure as HELL would never vote for Trump or Vance.
You don't have ONE leader? Who would you vote for Pres today if there were an election?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou mean like how Trump let the COUNTRY burn during Covid years where he deliberately put down the epidemic so over a million died when the death toll could have been MUCH less if Trump had been a competent POTUS with empathy but that is not how Trump plays. We now know the reason he tried to soft shoe the epidemic, he has stock in competing big Pharm and he didn't want Moderna to win the stock market being the first with a vaccine.
So you liked they way newsome let his state burn?
@Phranny saidExactly.
@AverageJoe1 Maxwell was convicted of perjury. She has been convicted of lying under oath. She's a convicted pediophile and sex trafficer of children. She will say anything for a get out of jail card. She's been rewarded by being sent to a cushy prison camp and may well be pardoned by Trump. Only an idiot would believe her.
@AverageJoe1 said&list=RDdx7OBym1CBs&start_radio=1
“Ghislaine Maxwell said she never saw President Trump do anything inappropriate or illegal during her long relationship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, according to transcripts and audio recordings of her extensive interview with a top Justice Department official made public Friday.
During the two-day conversation last month at a courthouse in Florida, Max ...[text shortened]... reatest of all presidents, and doesnot even need Teflon!!
Y”all bring another that we can debunk.
@KingDavid403 saidwhat is in the you tube king george
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7OBym1CBs&list=RDdx7OBym1CBs&start_radio=1
@AverageJoe1 saidHow am I supposed to know who the front runner will be in the democrat party?
Oh wow, what an artful dodger you are. I asked you who you would vote for and you tell me who would not vote for. You might be the greatest debater of all time.
I'll vote for whomever is picked. My guess is Newsom will be high on that list but only time will tell.
Are you still playing the I have to find someone else now game?
@sonhouse saidare you talking about the covid democrats and china deliberately release on the public for political reasons?
You mean like how Trump let the COUNTRY burn during Covid years where he deliberately put down the epidemic so over a million died when the death toll could have been MUCH less if Trump had been a competent POTUS with empathy but that is not how Trump plays. We now know the reason he tried to soft shoe the epidemic, he has stock in competing big Pharm and he didn't want Moderna to win the stock market being the first with a vaccine.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidYou want to spin it so Trump has no culpability but the sad truth is Trump downplayed Covid from day one and there is nothing you can say or do that will change that.
are you talking about the covid democrats and china deliberately release on the public for political reasons?
"Political Interference in Government Science:
Flouting Expert Guidance, Leading to White House Coronavirus Outbreak
Disregarding public health guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the White House hosted what medical experts are calling a coronavirus “super spreader” event on September 26, 2020, to announce the nomination of Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court. Over 200 people attended the densely packed event, where guests mingled indoors as well as outside, with few wearing masks or physically distancing from one another. According to a White House official, this is where President Trump, along with Senators Mike Lee and Thom Tillis and members of the military, may have become infected with the coronavirus. At least 34 White House staffers and other contacts have been infected, including members of the White House housekeeping staff, as well as White House reporters.
As public health experts have explained throughout the pandemic, contact tracing is essential to stopping the spread of the virus. However, for nearly a week after the president announced that he had contracted the virus, the White House refused to allow the CDC to perform contact tracing (eventually allowing for “some limited CDC involvement” in investigating the outbreak), even though the CDC has the federal government’s most extensive resources to do so. In the absence of a systematic effort to trace or advise attendees of the White House event, many dispersed across the country, engaging in activities that risked spreading the virus, including visiting public gyms and touring manufacturing facilities.
After the outbreak started, the White House continued to defy recommendations from scientists and health authorities to prevent or contain the virus’ spread. For instance, the president’s medical team declined to say when the president last tested negative for the virus. His medical team issued contradictory statements about the timeline for his diagnosis and the severity of his symptoms — at one point admitting that they misrepresented his condition to avoid causing alarm — and flouted experts’ guidelines for isolation to stop the spread of the virus. The president may have also risked the health of Secret Service agents when he decided to leave the hospital to greet his supporters from his motorcade just one day after he began a steroid treatment used for patients with severe responses to Covid-19 (a decision one attending physician at Walter Reed described as “insanity&rdquo😉. Shortly after returning to the White House (and less than six days after he announced testing positive), the president met in person with aides, despite warnings from medical experts that he could have still been infectious at the time. Just two days later, Trump held an in-person rally for hundreds of supporters on the White House lawn (which, in addition to raising serious safety concerns, may have violated the Hatch Act).
Since his diagnosis, the president has also continued to undermine the authority and legitimacy of federal public health agencies and experts and spread misinformation. In the midst of his intensive Covid-19 treatment, Trump urged the public, “Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life,” contradicting warnings from the CDC and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease Director Dr. Anthony Fauci about the seriousness of the disease. Less than five days after first receiving an experimental drug, Trump touted it as a miracle “cure,” even though the drug had not completed clinical trials. He also pressured the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to make it available to the public immediately, thwarting the agency’s process for ensuring the safety of new drugs and vaccines, including on an emergency basis.
The president’s defiance of public health guidance and downplaying of the severity of the Covid-19 pandemic in the wake of his own diagnosis are part of a long pattern of sidelining and undermining the federal government’s public health apparatus. As documented below, his administration has repeatedly censored government scientists, politicized testing, undercut public health guidelines to wear masks, and thwarted state officials’ science-based policy decisions. "
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@sonhouse saidHow can it be a game for me to ask you who would like to be the President when you wake up in the morning.? What individual, sonhouse? Not who the front runner is. What a wimp answer, 'i will vote for the front runner'. Vote???? Did I ask who you would 'vote' for? No, I asked who you would like to be president. Out of all the people on the Horizon. I would not be surprised if you answered Micky Mouse, as is your usual modus operandi. I didn't ask you "who the frontrunner would be, sonhouse
How am I supposed to know who the front runner will be in the democrat party?
I'll vote for whomever is picked. My guess is Newsom will be high on that list but only time will tell.
Are you still playing the I have to find someone else now game?
Who would you like to be president. Geez, like getting blood out of a turnip, a true turnip.
@kmax87 saidShe did say there was a list infront of her though… didn’t she?
That was at the beginning. About a month ago she said there was no list, which helped light the fire of MAGA cognitive dissonance. All we have left to see is if the QANON MAGA faithful will buy the latest Ghislaine Maxwell get out of jail free confession, and renew their support for their Lier in Chief and find a way to blame the Dems.
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@AverageJoe1 saidSorry, not playing that game. Democrats need someone who is not afraid of Trump.
How can it be a game for me to ask you who would like to be the President when you wake up in the morning.? What individual, sonhouse? Not who the front runner is. What a wimp answer, 'i will vote for the front runner'. Vote???? Did I ask who you would 'vote' for? No, I asked who you would like to be president. Out of all the people on the Horizon. I would ...[text shortened]...
Who woujld you like to be president. Geez, like getting blood out of a turnip, a true turnip.
Trump is losing it mentally every month he gest worse and who was Trump calling old and in the way? So now the shoe is on the other foot.
Trump is the one sliding into dementia and the question is how long will he be able to do his dictator duties like getting more and more military troops to stop protests and the like where he claims massive crime wave in DC which is BS because crime is down some 20% in DC but Trump lies all the time and this is just another POS policy designed to run fear into the public.
We as US citizens are sliding directly into a dictatorship and you are totally blind to it.
Trump has already instructed Texas to super gerrymander to gain 5 seats in congress and that in the middle of a term where those gerrymandering is normally once every ten years but Trump DEMANDS Texas gerrymander even more than it already has so he is trying to rig the elections before we even get a chance to vote.
Trump is calling ALL the Red states to have Gerrymandering in ALL red states. This is a huge conspiracy and NOT theory.
THIS is what we should be talking about, stopping this drive to dictatorship, and politicizing FBI, AG and others blowing away the concept of independence of FBI and AG from POTUS. That is VERY dangerous because TRUMP now says who does the FBI go after DEMOCRAT members of congress are now under investigation which cannot go anywhere in a real court setting but that might not even happen, they could be whisked away by ICE and gone to some gulag.
But of course you will NEVER want to talk about that huge corruption of power.