the 1st debate

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7639075.stm

so, who actually won the debate?

Iran, Israel and diplomacy.

McCain: My reading of the threat from Iran is that if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, it is an existential threat to the State of Israel and to other countries in the region because the other countries in the region will feel compelling requirement to acquire nuclear weapons as well. Now we cannot allow a second Holocaust.

Obama: We cannot tolerate a nuclear Iran. It would be a game changer. Not only would it threaten Israel, a country that is our stalwart ally, but it would also create an environment in which you could set off an arms race in this Middle East.

McCain: What Senator Obama doesn't seem to understand is that if without precondition you sit down across the table from someone who has called Israel a 'stinking corpse', and wants to destroy that country and wipe it off the map, you legitimise those comments... it's just dangerous.

Obama: Senator McCain mentioned Henry Kissinger, who's one of his advisers, who, along with five recent secretaries of state, just said that we should meet with Iran - guess what - without precondition. This is one of your own advisors.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Iran, Israel and diplomacy.

McCain: My reading of the threat from Iran is that if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, it is an existential threat to the State of Israel and to other countries in the region because the other countries in the region will feel compelling requirement to acquire nuclear weapons as well. Now we cannot allow a second Holocaust. ...[text shortened]... hould meet with Iran - guess what - without precondition. This is one of your own advisors.

again, here are my thoughts from the other thread, it hasnt changed since i wrote it 😉

i think its not about the points they make for who won, but what independent uncommitted voters thought. and obama won them so he won the debate. everyone else of course liked their guy better

Originally posted by CliffLandin
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Originally posted by irontigran
again, here are my thoughts from the other thread, it hasnt changed since i wrote it 😉

i think its not about the points they make for who won, but what independent uncommitted voters thought. and obama won them so he won the debate. everyone else of course liked their guy better

Originally posted by CliffLandin
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Obama clearly won on economics and busgeting etc,
It was a virtual tie for the rest of the debate with flashes for both candidates...result? Obama by a slim margin

Originally posted by whodey
Ok, who won the second debate?

Originally posted by CliffLandin
I did.