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  1. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    04 Apr '13 13:11 / 3 edits
    Many people on the conservative side of the political fence have been spreading some false information about the affordable care act.
    Stories about killing grandma, skyrocketing healthcare costs, and employers having to go out of business because of this law have been very popular recently. Much of this law has yet to take effect, but I'm confident that when it does, these stories will be exposed for what they are, a smear campaign by a defeated political party.

    http://news.yahoo.com/five-myths-obamacare-probably-believe-174633040.html?bcmt=1365078436655-ec96580a-2db8-49f2-88e7-9707064fe9e6_00002b000000000000000000000000-8ab30f13-8add-4384-8b0a-f6cc36e921bb&bcmt_s=u#mediacommentsugc_container
  2. 04 Apr '13 13:46
    Originally posted by bill718
    Many people on the conservative side of the political fence have been spreading some false information about the affordable care act.
    Stories about killing grandma, skyrocketing healthcare costs, and employers having to go out of business because of this law have been very popular recently. Much of this law has yet to take effect, but I'm confident that whe ...[text shortened]... 0000000000000000000000-8ab30f13-8add-4384-8b0a-f6cc36e921bb&bcmt_s=u#mediacommentsugc_container
    Unless you deny economics certain things are guaranteed to happen.
    (1) Healthcare costs will increase if more people are covered. They also will increase because the government has goals other than efficiency and things normally cost more when they are involved.
    (2) Business will have increased cost (healthcare). Especially for lower skilled and therefore lower paid employees it will make it that the cost of many jobs are greater than the profit. Thus, business will exit certain industries.

    I think supporters of universal healthcare should try to make honest argument like "the sacrifice is worth it" (which I personallly think it isn't) rather than lying that there will be no costs to making a huge entitlement expansion.
  3. 04 Apr '13 22:54
    Originally posted by quackquack
    Unless you deny economics certain things are guaranteed to happen.
    (1) Healthcare costs will increase if more people are covered. They also will increase because the government has goals other than efficiency and things normally cost more when they are involved.
    (2) Business will have increased cost (healthcare). Especially for lower skilled and t ...[text shortened]... isn't) rather than lying that there will be no costs to making a huge entitlement expansion.
    They are making the argument that there is a free lunch. Socialist plans require that argument, and it works mostly because the beneficiaries get immediate satisfaction, and the costs born by others are usually deferred, hidden or both.