@Metal-Brain
Coward, right, because that is a BS site and we don't NEED to watch it.
That would be because you disdain actual science instead going with BS opinion sites with ZERO science backing them up BECAUSE they have a political agenda which should not be on the same page as real science but because THEIR agenda's agree with your own you assume they must be 100% right and therefore all of US are 100% wrong, thus proving once again IN YOUR MIND you think you are WAY superior to us Earthlings, which is not the planet YOU came from.
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@wajoma saidCan you post stats comparing places with mask mandates to those without them at the same period? How about doing a scientific study like this one:
And I can post stats that show infections went up after the introduction of mask mandates.
". In this observational study of matched cohorts from 412 US counties between March 21 and October 20, 2020, we estimated the association between county-level public masking mandates and daily COVID-19 case incidence. On average, the daily case incidence per 100,000 people in masked counties compared with unmasked counties declined by 25 percent at four weeks, 35 percent at six weeks, and 18 percent across six weeks postintervention. "
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2021.[WORD TOO LONG].
Or maybe this one regarding mandatory masking in schools:
"Schools with mandatory masking during the Delta surge had approximately 72% fewer cases of in-school transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when compared to schools with optional or partial masking policies, according to a study funded by the National Institutes of Health. "
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/mandatory-masking-schools-reduced-covid-19-cases-during-delta-surge
@no1marauder saidShe didn't say "partly" or "mostly" prevent transmission. She said they no longer prevent transmission. That means not at all moron. They were not designed to prevent transmission....at all.
That's not what she said. She said they can't "prevent" transmission, not that they don't reduce the possibility of transmission.
I've already cited numerous studies showing that the vaccines do just that.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/pfizer-exec-concedes-covid-19-vaccine-was-never-tested-on-preventing-transmission_4788577.html
How do you know they reduce transmission when they were never tested for that?
@metal-brain saidLMAO! Already posted some of these but:
She didn't say "partly" or "mostly" prevent transmission. She said they no longer prevent transmission. That means not at all moron. They were not designed to prevent transmission....at all.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/pfizer-exec-concedes-covid-19-vaccine-was-never-tested-on-preventing-transmission_4788577.html
How do you know they reduce transmission when they were never tested for that?
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/new-research-proves-covid-19-vaccines-can-slow-spread-disease-even-omicron
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pfizer-vaccine-transmission/[WORD TOO LONG]
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02328-0
Besides that you keep confusing the purpose of the vaccine itself; it was for reducing the spread of the disease, not the virus.
@no1marauder said2 minutes to 3:15 Rochelle Walensky said it. No need to watch it though. Here is a link saying the same thing.
How come you are never able to do something simple like point to when in a video statements are made supporting your claims? Something like "at about 6:30 Fauci says X"?
Do you even watch them or do you just lie about their contents?
https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/cdc-walks-back-claim-that-vaccinated-people-cant-carry-covid/
There. I proved it. Happy?
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@no1marauder saidRead your own nature article. It said this:
LMAO! Already posted some of these but:
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/new-research-proves-covid-19-vaccines-can-slow-spread-disease-even-omicron
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-pfizer-vaccine-transmission/[WORD TOO LONG] ...[text shortened]... purpose of the vaccine itself; it was for reducing the spread of the disease, not the virus.
"People who become infected with the Omicron variant are less likely to spread the virus to others if they have been vaccinated or have had a previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, according to a study in US prisons"
That means mandates are stupid and serve no purpose if you have natural immunity.
"Besides that you keep confusing the purpose of the vaccine itself; it was for reducing the spread of the disease"
Joe Biden was vaccinated and he got covid twice.
https://people.com/politics/president-biden-tests-positive-for-covid-19-for-the-second-time-this-month/
https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/cdc-walks-back-claim-that-vaccinated-people-cant-carry-covid/
CDC chief Rochelle Walensky said earlier this week that “vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick.”
You owe me an apology.
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@metal-brain saidNo, you moron, mandates serve the purpose of making it less likely you'll catch a deadly, contagious disease. Vaccines serve the same purpose along with making it less likely it will be severe if you do catch it and less likely you will transmit it to others.
Read your own nature article. It said this:
"People who become infected with the Omicron variant are less likely to spread the virus to others if they have been vaccinated or have had a previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, according to a study in US prisons"
That means mandates are stupid and serve no purpose if you have natural immunity.
"Besides that you keep confusi ...[text shortened]... this week that “vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick.”
You owe me an apology.
Walensky in that interview went beyond the data at the time (https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccines-effective-in-the-real-world-2021-3) which looked even better than the subsequent studies I have referenced. Still there was no "big lie"; the CDC clarified her statements almost immediately as even your articles concede. A lie is a "false statement made with the intention to deceive" and it is quite obvious that statement was not made with any intention to deceive.
It's obvious what you are doing i.e. trying to deflect from what everyone now calls the "Big Lie" i.e. Donald Trump's persistent and continuing false claim that he really won the 2020 election. This is no surprise; you've been carrying water here for Trump and other right wingers for over 6 years now.
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@no1marauder saidNo moron. Your studies are from prison, not in a free world setting.
No, you moron, mandates serve the purpose of making it less likely you'll catch a deadly, contagious disease. Vaccines serve the same purpose along with making it less likely it will be severe if you do catch it and less likely you will transmit it to others.
Walensky in that interview went beyond the data at the time (https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-pfizer-and-mod ...[text shortened]... no surprise; you've been carrying water here for Trump and other right wingers for over 6 years now.
I proved Rochelle said exactly what you double dog dared me to prove and she is not the only one who told the big lie. Contradicting her own lie does not absolve her from lying.
Rochelle told the big lie. Subsequent statements do not reverse that lie. Your link said this:
CDC: Real-world data shows Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID-19 vaccines are 90% effective at preventing infection
90%? That is obviously a lie. Even you don't believe that. If you do you must be stupid.
https://news.ohsu.edu/2022/09/22/new-study-reveals-breakthrough-infections-increase-immunity-to-covid-19
Some vaccinated people do have some immunity from infections because they got covid you moron! They have natural immunity from getting the virus!
@no1marauder
You apparently need a lesson in very basic math.
Your own prison study said transmitting the virus vaccinated people's risk of transmitting the virus was 27%. Now you post a study that says it is 10%. That is a 17% difference. That doesn't add up. You realize that, right?
Gene vaccine mandates are stupid. Natural immunity is better and there should be an exception for natural immunity. They are no danger to anyone and you know it. Stop supporting authoritarian policies that make no sense at all. You are spreading propaganda from big pharma and you should be ashamed of yourself for it.
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@no1marauder saidI can assure you, that even at this stage when the goobermint is hoping the BS they've forced on citizens simply evaporates and that people don't ask, don't question, there are businesses who discriminated with their "vaxx passport required, no exceptions" signs I will never set foot inside again, ever, that's a promise. Most did not despite threats from clip board toting little hitlers.
What the unvaccinated Karens want isn't to "interact with each other" but to interact with the general public in the same manner that they did prior to this deadly, contagious pandemic.
One cafe' in our little town moved the track and trace sign inside (despite the muffled protesting of the petty local council bureaurat) because there were nut cases going around 'collecting' scans which meant if they collected a covid contact all the contacts on their phone became suspect. Of course the whole idiotic unwieldy multi-million dollar scheme went the same way as all the other BS, into the trash can. Those responsible did not bear the costs of these dream feelings they were actually paid to set up the hurdles.
Never again.
@no1marauder saidFor people under 50, the vaccinated have a 49% higher mortality rate. The vaccine is priming the immune system for failure and causing unpredictable inflammation throughout the body, putting vital organs at risk.
LMAO! From your own cite:
"Research continues to show that people who are vaccinated or boosted have a lower risk of death. The rise in deaths among the vaccinated is the result of three factors, Cox said. They are:
A large majority of people in the U.S. have been vaccinated (267 million people in the U.S., the CDC says).
People who are at the greatest risk ...[text shortened]... g-of-covid-as-fewer-get-booster-shots
I think you don't even read your cites, just the headlines.
https://www.dcclothesline.com/2022/12/13/senator-johnsons-round-table-shocks-the-world-again-data-shows-that-the-vaccinated-have-a-26-higher-mortality-rate/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/covid-vaccines-raise-mortality-rate-by-26-analyst-reveals-at-sen-ron-johnsons-roundtable/
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@metal-brain saidTalking about lies, doesn't Joe owe the world an apology ?
They lied to us all. Should they apologize?
https://rumble.com/v21v2ce-yes-they-did-say-covid-vaxx-stopped-transmission-of-virus.html
@jj-adams saidYes
Talking about lies, doesn't Joe owe the world an apology ?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Acc5NQVhaxw