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the chavez effect finally wears off

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/19/do1905.xml

Hooray!

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/19/do1905.xml
For some people the Daily Telegraph Effect wears off pretty quickly too.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/11/19/do1905.xml

Hooray!
For those interested in a more balanced analysis: http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3963

Four years ago, Chavez supporters won an overwhelming victory in regional elections, taking 22 of 23 State governors and almost 90% of the mayor's races. It would be remarkable for any government in a democracy to duplicate such a showing and Chavez's party almost certainly won't. However, most pollsters expect Chavez's movement to retain a solid majority of both governors and mayors.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
For those interested in a more balanced analysis: http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3963

Four years ago, Chavez supporters won an overwhelming victory in regional elections, taking 22 of 23 State governors and almost 90% of the mayor's races. It would be remarkable for any government in a democracy to duplicate such a showing and C ...[text shortened]... pollsters expect Chavez's movement to retain a solid majority of both governors and mayors.
Don't tell me Soros bought the election for Chavez as he did for Obama.

GRANNY.

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Originally posted by FMF
For some people the Daily Telegraph Effect wears off pretty quickly too.
is that all you have to say?

Has your hero (chavez) disappointed you?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
For those interested in a more balanced analysis: http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3963

Four years ago, Chavez supporters won an overwhelming victory in regional elections, taking 22 of 23 State governors and almost 90% of the mayor's races. It would be remarkable for any government in a democracy to duplicate such a showing and C pollsters expect Chavez's movement to retain a solid majority of both governors and mayors.
LOL

Im sure that venezuelananalysis is ''balanced''.

Have you tried ''socialistworker''?
Its even more balanced and unbiased.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
LOL

Im sure that venezuelananalysis is ''balanced''.

Have tried ''socialistworker''?
Its even more balanced and unbiased.
Is that all you have to say?

The quality of the analysis in the article cited v. the Telegraph's propaganda piece speaks for itself.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Is that all you have to say?

The quality of the analysis in the article cited v. the Telegraph's propaganda piece speaks for itself.
Do you think this is ''unbalanced'' as well?http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/20/chavez-threatens-election-crackdown/

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Do you think this is ''unbalanced'' as well?http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/20/chavez-threatens-election-crackdown/
Yes, the Washington Times is a notorious right wing rag and its article is high on hysteria and low on facts as is par for the course for its "reporting". Even that article concedes that Chavez has "broad support". I think you are going to be very disappointed when the vote totals for the Sunday elections comes in (not that you support elections); the "ignorant peasants" look like they will give Chavez another victory although not of the unprecedented magnitude of four years ago.

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Originally posted by FMF
For some people the Daily Telegraph Effect wears off pretty quickly too.

Originally posted by generalissimo
is that all you have to say? Has your hero (chavez) disappointed you?
No. But the Daily Telegraph is a famously skewed source that independent thinking Brits across the political spectrum scoff at. Except for its obitiuries and cricket coverage.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
is that all you have to say?

Has your hero (chavez) disappointed you?
Anyone who uses the Telegraph as resource material is desperate.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Yes, the Washington Times is a notorious right wing rag and its article is high on hysteria and low on facts as is par for the course for its "reporting". Even that article concedes that Chavez has "broad support". I think you are going to be very disappointed when the vote totals for the Sunday elections comes in (not that you support elections); the "i ...[text shortened]... give Chavez another victory although not of the unprecedented magnitude of four years ago.
have a look at this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/20/AR2008112003817.html

Quotes from the article
''"Here the government has had it all -- the mayor's seat, the state governorship, the ministries, the congress,"

"Everything belongs to Chávez, and the municipality is worse off. People live worse than before, and that is why they are looking for change."

Its pathetic of you to ignore the failures of the Chavez regime, you pretend the evidence is false simply because in your narrow mind the washigton times (and any other truly balanced media) is ''right-wing''.

Hugo Chavez is a lying tyrant, the evidence is right in your face, don't just stick your head in the sand and pretend its all lies.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Anyone who uses the Telegraph as resource material is desperate.
Can't handle the truth, heh?

too bad, for you.

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Surely Human Rights Watch will be a satisfactory middle ground?
http://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/venezuela0908web.pdf
Unfortunately, the US sponsored coup in 2002 appears to have made Chavez paranoid enough to undo the good work he did prior to the attempted revolution. He needs to stick by the constitution he enacted.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
have a look at this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/20/AR2008112003817.html

Quotes from the article
''"Here the government has had it all -- the mayor's seat, the state governorship, the ministries, the congress,"

"Everything belongs to Chávez, and the municipality is worse off. People live worse than before, an ...[text shortened]... right in your face, don't just stick your head in the sand and pretend its all lies.
According to that article:

Chavez's personal popularity is still about 60%;
Poverty in Venezuela has went from 53% in 1999 when Chavez took office to 37.7% now; and
Chavez's supporters are virtually certain to win most of Sunday's elections.


Where does the "tyrant" part fit in?

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