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the cloned mouse....your cloned child?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
They've already passed legislation outlawing human cloning, so that means, somewhere, some place, they've already done it.
but they shouln't have done it, cloning is wrong, its very sad that there are people playing God these days.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
but they shouln't have done it, cloning is wrong, its very sad that there are people playing God these days.
If people have intercourse, are they also playing God?

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Here's a new rub on this: Say you're Hilary Clinton, and you gain access to cloning technology, you could extend your life indefinitely by having your head grafted onto younger, healthier, cloned bodies. How creepy is that?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
If people have intercourse, are they also playing God?
that's completely different.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
that's completely different.
Oh really? How?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Oh really? How?
http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/May2003/Wiseman.asp#top

first question.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/May2003/Wiseman.asp#top

first question.
The existence of the soul is hypothetical and irrelevant to any rational argument. I can make any metaphysical assumption I like but it doesn't prove anything, nor does it have any relevance for morality. For example, it may as well be that only cloned humans get a soul, and uncloned humans don't. Prove this wrong.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The existence of the soul is hypothetical and irrelevant to any rational argument. I can make any metaphysical assumption I like but it doesn't prove anything, nor does it have any relevance for morality. For example, it may as well be that only cloned humans get a soul, and uncloned humans don't. Prove this wrong.
Cloning is tampering with the essence of life. It is morally
wrong to artificially create life.

your last statement is nonsense.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Cloning is tampering with the essence of life. It is morally
wrong to artificially create life.

your last statement is nonsense.
Why is it morally wrong to artificially create life?

My last statement is just as nonsensical as claiming humans have a soul without giving an empirical reference to "soul".

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The existence of the soul is hypothetical and irrelevant to any rational argument. I can make any metaphysical assumption I like but it doesn't prove anything, nor does it have any relevance for morality. For example, it may as well be that only cloned humans get a soul, and uncloned humans don't. Prove this wrong.
Oh, did people forget to tell you that you cannot have rational arguements with True Believers? It's all about faith (theirs) and nothing else counts.

EDIT: Some enlightened people actually surprise you.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Why is it morally wrong to artificially create life?

My last statement is just as nonsensical as claiming humans have a soul without giving an empirical reference to "soul".
would you like to have you, or some member of your family cloned?

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Originally posted by Lundos
Oh, did people forget to tell you that you cannot have rational arguements with True Believers? It's all about faith (theirs) and nothing else counts.
"Arguing with a believer is like boxing with a quadriphlegic."

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
"Arguing with a believer is like boxing with a quadriphlegic."
moronic statement.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
would you like to have you, or some member of your family cloned?
Oh, you mean like 3% of the population (twins) already has?

I don't see why I would care if someone would clone me or one of my family members, as long as it doesn't cost me any effort or money.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
moronic statement.
But funny at the same time.