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the cloned mouse....your cloned child?

the cloned mouse....your cloned child?

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amongst all the american election they announced that they successfully cloned a mouse from one that had been dead for about 10 years. of course the the news went on the say that this could lead to the cloning of a mammoth or some other extinct creature. who cares, their DNA was be to damaged after being frozen for so long even if they did want to try it. what it really means is that they're trying to achieve the capability of cloning a pet or even humans that have died.

weather you think this is wrong or playing god i want to now if you had a child and something happened to it when it was just a baby, lets say it was killed at birth and you had the choice of cloning it. would you want to bring it back, could you live with the fact that your child was dead and the person that you where rising was in fact a clone?

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a lot of people would like to bring their dead pets back.
my daughter slammed her bedroom door, and in the process she crushed her sister's cute little hamster to death. he surely deserves a comeback 😞

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Originally posted by trev33
amongst all the american election they announced that they successfully cloned a mouse from one that had been dead for about 10 years. of course the the news went on the say that this could lead to the cloning of a mammoth or some other extinct creature. who cares, their DNA was be to damaged after being frozen for so long even if they did want to try it. wha ...[text shortened]... ith the fact that your child was dead and the person that you where rising was in fact a clone?
I wouldn't do it because it would not be born of a father and a mother and thus it would lack a soul. Being nothing more than an empty husk or a mere simulacrum of my departed child, it could easily become the vessel for a demonic entity, and in the end, you'd have to kill it (i.e., see "Pet Cemetery"😉.

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Originally posted by trev33
amongst all the american election they announced that they successfully cloned a mouse from one that had been dead for about 10 years. of course the the news went on the say that this could lead to the cloning of a mammoth or some other extinct creature. who cares, their DNA was be to damaged after being frozen for so long even if they did want to try it. wha ...[text shortened]... ith the fact that your child was dead and the person that you where rising was in fact a clone?
Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone. Kill the baby, make a clone.

Then it never grows up!

Or make it a vampire like that little girl vampire in The Vampire Lestat.

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I don't think a clone would resemble the original more than superficially. Every human has its own personality, and is therefore unique. Even identical twins are exactly like eachother.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
I don't think a clone would resemble the original more than superficially. Every human has its own personality, and is therefore unique. Even identical twins are exactly like eachother.
Brain Transplant solves this.

"Brain and brain, what is brain?"

To get a close shot at the original, you would need to do EVERYTHING exactly the same, but it's pretty hard to plan the small things kids learn like conversations they listened in on, falling off a chair or bed, any given things. It's the small things put together than make who we are as we grow.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I wouldn't do it because it would not be born of a father and a mother and thus it would lack a soul. Being nothing more than an empty husk or a mere simulacrum of my departed child, it could easily become the vessel for a demonic entity, and in the end, you'd have to kill it (i.e., see "Pet Cemetery"😉.
Ahhhhh but your basing all this on the existence of a soul in the first place which is probably not true depending on your definition of a soul.....

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I wouldn't do it because it would not be born of a father and a mother and thus it would lack a soul. Being nothing more than an empty husk or a mere simulacrum of my departed child, it could easily become the vessel for a demonic entity, and in the end, you'd have to kill it (i.e., see "Pet Cemetery"😉.
true.

once something dies you can't make it live again, its not God's will.

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Abby Normal.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
true.

once something dies you can't make it live again, its not God's will.
People die all the time and come back, perhaps it's God's will... I can't say for sure.

I don't think there would be an empty husk, I think it may be an invitation to any given soul to enter said clone (good OR bad).

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Originally posted by MrHand
Abby Normal.
Abbot Cadaver.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
true.

once something dies you can't make it live again, its not God's will.
Suppose for the sake of the argument that you can somehow know God's will, and also suppose it's somehow relevant for anything. Then clearly if cloning is possible, it's also God's will.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Suppose for the sake of the argument that you can somehow know God's will, and also suppose it's somehow relevant for anything. Then clearly if cloning is possible, it's also God's will.
just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it.
They've already passed legislation outlawing human cloning, so that means, somewhere, some place, they've already done it.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it.
Only if God is not allknowing.

In any case, even in the extremely improbable case that God's will is represented by the bible, it doesn't even say or imply cloning is bad.

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